Examination of Witnesses (Questions 6440
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6440. MR MOULD: Yes. One assumes that
the draftsman has all potential claims well in mind when he or
she puts pen to paper, so I think that must be right, but it does
turn on the facts and, as your Lordship will appreciate, there
is a difference between speculative factual situations and those
which can be shown to have been likely to have occurred.
6441. CHAIRMAN: I am all too familiar
with the fact that these things always turn on the facts. I just
wonder whether the Bill covers the situation.
6442. MR MOULD: Yes, I think it does,
because it would be referable to the loss of the navigation right.
Mr Cartwright referred your Lordships to paragraph 3.1 in the
information paper and that is clearly dealing with cases where
an access to the highway is obstructed and as a result the operation
of a business carried on within the land served by the access
is affected. The classic example is a hotel which is affected
by temporary loss of access to the highway and as a result business
goes down and there is a loss of trade.
6443. CHAIRMAN: It is usually an injurious
affection point, is it not?
6444. MR MOULD: It is an injury which
is sustained due to the obstruction of the right of way.
6445. CHAIRMAN: But it goes to value
in terms of injurious affection?
6446. MR MOULD: Yes. Here the right of
way is over water. In the ordinary case it is over land.
6447. CHAIRMAN: Yes, with variations.
6448. MR MOULD: My Lord, I am not sure
one can take the matter any further because one is beginning to
speculate on factual scenarios in which perforce one has to consider
where they arise, but I hope that gives some comfort to Mr Cartwright
as to the principles.
6449. CHAIRMAN: At any rate, we are certain
that access to the ships can be made so that we can be sure that
they will not sink in the meantime?
6450. MR MOULD: That is the intention
of both parties. One of the reasons why we wrote the letter that
we did, which I showed you, in response to the work Mr Cartwright
mentioned a few moments ago, was precisely to ensure that appropriate
measures are taken in order to safeguard the vessels for their
long stay in situ in the dock, and to ensure that those whose
task it is to indemnify in the event of some, one hopes very unlikely,
event at the time that your Lordship mentioned, that is to say,
the insurers, are prepared to underwrite the presence of those
ships that stay within the dock during the currency of the Crossrail
works.
6451. CHAIRMAN: Is there likely to be
a document that will be agreed between you and Mr Cartwright?
6452. MR MOULD: That is certainly what
I think both parties intend and the negotiations will continue
with a view to achieving that. I think we would hope and expect
that we can move forward from today privately in that respect
rather than have to trouble your Lordships with this matter any
further.
6453. CHAIRMAN: But it will not be an
undertaking; it will be a private agreement?
6454. MR MOULD: It will be a private
agreement, I think, yes.
6455. CHAIRMAN: We do not want to go
into the details of that.
6456. MR MOULD: My Lord, in a sense your
Lordships have had a little bit of a progress report on where
we are at. Unless there is anything further I would propose to
leave it there as far as my submissions are concerned.
6457. CHAIRMAN: Lord James?
6458. LORD JAMES OF BLACKHEATH: Thank
you, my Lord Chairman. I shall again remind the Committee that
I am a member of the Bishop of Chelmsford's Committee for Religious
Affairs covering this area ostensibly for the Olympics but which
6459. CHAIRMAN: I thought it was in the
Diocese of London.
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