4860. MR ELVIN: Which is where the bus collected us on the site visit if you remember.

  4861. BARONESS FOOKES: I remember, but it was very tight around there.
  (Mr Berryman) Around there is very tight, that corner is very tight (Indicating). This corner is okay, and this corner is okay for vehicles turning right (Indicating). It is not brilliant for vehicles turning left.

  4862. Roadworks will have to be done to improve that?
  (Mr Berryman) Re-alignment of kerbs will be needed on that one.

  4863. BARONESS FOOKES: That will be done by?
  (Mr Berryman) By us, my Lady, by Crossrail.

  4864. MR ELVIN: That will be under the procedures with the highway authority.

  4865. LORD BROOKE OF ALVERTHORPE: I was surprised, Mr Berryman, I think I observed it when I was with you, that the fencing around the play areas in some of the schools was rather low. Whilst we are all concerned about children coming to school and leaving the school, if they are playing in the playground and a ball goes bouncing over the top of the fence it could go into a road. I suspect you are probably more likely to run into risk outside of those principal hours rather than in them and I am wondering whether you have entered into discussions with the schools about raising the fences?
  (Mr Berryman) My Lord, I went back and had a look at that. You raised that on the site visit.

  4866. Yes.
  (Mr Berryman) The schools all have high fences around them.

  4867. LORD BROOKE OF ALVERTHORPE: It was the council one.
  (Mr Berryman) It is a council playground and we are, of course, in detailed discussion with the council on matters of that sort.

  4868. MR ELVIN: That is a matter the council is alive to presumably, Mr Berryman?
  (Mr Berryman) It is indeed.

  4869. MR ELVIN: Just so we have it absolutely clear, is this a route map which has already been looked at by the London Borough Tower Hamlets, both in general terms and as a highway authority?
  (Mr Berryman) Yes, it is, very much so, and in the case of this circular route round here it was virtually on their insistence this was the route that was chosen (Indicating). Our original idea was slightly different to theirs but they were adamant this was what they wanted.

  4870. CHAIRMAN: Is this something that the local liaison group has contributed to at all?
  (Mr Berryman) My Lord, I am afraid the local liaison group has not contributed very much to anything.

  4871. That is why I asked you.
  (Mr Berryman) This is exactly the sort of thing we wanted them to contribute to.

  4872. CHAIRMAN: That is exactly why I asked you. They have not contributed so far at all?
  (Mr Berryman) Not yet, my Lord, no.

  4873. BARONESS FOOKES: Mr Berryman, what were the reasons the council gave for not wanting your original route and this represents a route, as I understand it, that they prefer, is that right?
  (Mr Berryman) Yes, that is the route the Council wanted.

  4874. Do we know why as opposed to your original route?
  (Mr Berryman) They had a preference for a one-way route rather than a route which involved vehicles doubling back. This section of road here is very, very narrow, so our original route was lorries coming in this way and going out that way and along there and turning right there (Indicating). They felt it would be better that lorries came that way simply because it would—

  4875. BARONESS FOOKES: Totally one-way.
  (Mr Berryman) It would be a one-way system.

  4876. LORD YOUNG OF NORWOOD GREEN: Doubling back?
  (Mr Berryman) That is correct.

  4877. LORD YOUNG OF NORWOOD GREEN: I think they are right

  4878. MR ELVIN: It has certainly been a route we have been asked to do for a long time. It has not changed since the Environmental Statement. This is the one of the volume eights showing the transport assessment showing exactly the same route. It has certainly been in place for over three years, has it not, Mr Berryman?
  (Mr Berryman) It is been in place for a very long time, since we first started talking about where the shaft should be with the local authority. I think it is five or six years at least.

  4879. LORD YOUNG OF NORWOOD GREEN: It does minimise the movement past any given point.   (Mr Berryman) That is correct.