2580. CHAIRMAN: But, Mr Saunderson, you are asking us to adjudicate on this, are you not? You are asking us to adjudicate upon the question of costs and the amount of costs, are you not?

  2581. MR SAUNDERSON: I am asking you to fulfil the undertaking they gave to the—

  2582. CHAIRMAN: Are you asking us to adjudicate upon the amount of costs?

  2583. MR SAUNDERSON: Not on the amount, no, Sir, on the payment of the cost, yes.

  2584. CHAIRMAN: Before we can make an order about payment we have got to adjudicate on the amount, have we not?

  2585. MR SAUNDERSON: Ms Lieven has already replied that she has no dispute about the amount of the fees.

  2586. CHAIRMAN: Mr Saunderson, please, will you answer my question. Do you want us to adjudicate on the amount of costs?

  2587. MR SAUNDERSON: Yes, I do.

  2588. CHAIRMAN: How are we to do that without evidence?

  2589. MR SAUNDERSON: I am sure Jones Lang can provide the evidence you require.

  2590. CHAIRMAN: It would have to be as part of Committee proceedings.

  2591. MR SAUNDERSON: I bow to your greater knowledge.

  2592. CHAIRMAN: If you want us to step into the shoes of the Lands Tribunal we have to decide on the whole list of things that I put to you a little while ago. In order to do that we would have to have evidence. Is that what you want to do? Do you want to bring evidence before us so that we can make a valid assessment of all these various payments that need to be made as if we were the Lands Tribunal?

  2593. MR SAUNDERSON: Yes.

  2594. CHAIRMAN: When are you going to call the evidence?

  2595. MR SAUNDERSON: I can do that when you are sitting.

  2596. CHAIRMAN: You are not going to do it today, are you?

  2597. MR SAUNDERSON: Not today, no, Sir.

  2598. CHAIRMAN: Have you got any idea what sort of evidence you are going to have to call?

  2599. MR SAUNDERSON: I would imagine I have to provide you with a letter that Jones Lang have provided to Crossrail.