APPENDIX 5: Formal Minutes
Extract from House of Lords Minute 2 February
2005
Children (Contact) and Adoption Bill- It was moved
by the Lord President (Baroness Amos) that it is expedient that
a Joint Committee of Lords and Commons be appointed to consider
and report on any draft
Children
(Contact)
and Adoption Bill presented to both Houses 2 February 2005 (Cm
6462), and that the committee should report on the draft
Bill by 26 May 2005; the motion was agreed to and a message was
ordered to be sent to the Commons to acquaint them therewith.
Extract from Votes and Proceedings of the House
of Commons 8 February 2005
Draft Children (Contact) and Adoption Bill (Joint
Committee)-ordered, That the Lords Message of 2 February
relating to a Joint Committee of both Houses to consider and Report
on the draft Children (Contact) and Adoption Bill presented to
both Houses on 2 February 2005 (Cm. 6462) be now considered.
That this House concurs with the Lords that it is
expedient that a Joint Committee of Lords and Commons be appointed
to consider and report on any draft
Children
(Contact)
and Adoption Bill presented to both Houses by a Minister of the
Crown, and that the Committee should report on the draft
Bill by 26th May 2005.
That a Select Committee of six honourable Members
be appointed to join with the Committee appointed by the Lords
to consider the draft
Children
(Contact)
and Adoption Bill.
That the Committee shall have power
(i) to send for persons, papers and records;
(ii) to sit notwithstanding any adjournment of the
House;
(iii) to report from time to time;
(iv) to appoint specialist advisers; and
(v) to adjourn from place to place within the United
Kingdom.
That the quorum of the Committee shall be two; and
That Vera Baird, Virginia Bottomley, Mr David Chidgey,
Ann Coffey, Jonathan Shaw and Mr Clive Soley be members of the
Committee.[Gillian Merron.]
Extract from House of Lords Minute 9 February
2005
Children (Contact) and Adoption Bill- It was moved
by the Chairman of Committees that the Commons message
of yesterday be now considered, and that a committee of six Lords
be appointed to join with the committee appointed by the Commons
to consider and report on the draft
Children
(Contact)
and Adoption Bill presented to both Houses on 2nd February 2005
(Cm 6462);
That, as proposed by the Committee of Selection,
the Lords following be named of the committee:
E. Dundee, B. Gould of Potternewton, B. Hooper, B.
Howarth of Breckland, B. Massey of Darwen, B. Nicholson of Winterbourne;
That the committee have power to agree with the Commons
in the appointment of a chairman;
That the committee have leave to report from time
to time;
That the Committee have power to adjourn from place
to place within the United Kingdom;
That the quorum of the Committee shall be two;
That the reports of the Committee from time to time
shall be printed, notwithstanding any adjournment of the House;
and
That the Committee do report on the draft Bill by
26th May 2005;
The motion was agreed to and a message was ordered
to be sent to the Commons to acquaint them therewith.
Extract from House of Lords Minute 2 March 2005
Children (Contact) and Adoption Bill - It was moved
by the Chairman of Committees, that the Baroness
Morgan
of Drefelin be appointed a member of the Select Committee in place
of the Baroness
Massey of Darwen.
Wednesday 9 February 2005
Present:
Earl of Dundee Vera Baird
Baroness Hooper Mr David Chidgey
Baroness Howarth of Breckland Ann Coffey
Jonathan Shaw
Mr Clive Soley
The Orders of Reference are read.
The declarations of relevant interests are made:
Vera Baird declared as an interest involvement with
Women's Aid in Redcar
Ann Coffey declared an interest as a social worker
before entering Parliament
Baroness Howarth of Breckland declared an interest
as Deputy Chair of CAFCASS
Jonathan Shaw declared an interest as a social worker
before entering Parliament
It is moved that Mr Clive Soley do take the Chair.
(Earl of Dundee)
The same is agreed to.
The Joint Committee deliberate.
Ordered, That Strangers be admitted during the examination
of witnesses unless otherwise ordered.
Ordered, That the uncorrected transcripts of oral
evidence given, unless the Committee otherwise orders, be published
on the Internet.
Ordered, That the Joint Committee be adjourned to
Thursday 24 February at 10 o'clock.
Thursday 24 February 2005 (morning)
Present:
Earl of Dundee Virginia Bottomley
Baroness Gould of Potternewton Mr David
Chidgey
Baroness Hooper Ann Coffey
Baroness Howarth of Breckland Jonathan Shaw
Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne
Mr Clive Soley in the Chair
The order of Adjournment is read.
The proceedings of Wednesday 9 February are read.
The Joint Committee deliberate.
Ordered, That Mr Andrew McFarlane QC and Professor
Gwynn Davis be appointed as Specialist Advisers to assist the
Committee.
The following witnesses are examined:
Mr Christopher Goulden, solicitor, Resolution (formerly
the Solicitors Family Law Association); Mr Philip Moor QC, Chairman,
and Mr Anthony Kirk, Vice-Chairman, Family Law Bar Association;
Dame Elizabeth Butler-Sloss, President, and Mrs Justice Bracewell,
Judge, the Family Division of the High Court.
Ordered, That the Joint Committee be adjourned to
today at half-past two o'clock.
Thursday 24 February 2005 (afternoon)
Present:
Baroness Gould of Potternewton Vera Baird
Baroness Howarth of Breckland Virginia Bottomley
Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne Mr David Chidgey
Ann Coffey
Jonathan Shaw
Mr Clive Soley in the Chair
The Order of Adjournment is read.
The proceedings of the meeting this morning are read.
The Joint Committee deliberate.
The following witnesses are examined:
The Baroness Pitkeathley OBE, a Member of the House
of Lords, Chair, Mr Anthony Douglas, Chief Executive and Ms Susan
Arnold, Children and Family Court Advisory and Support Service
(CAFCASS); Mrs Beverley Brooks MBE, Chief Executive, National
Association of Child Contact Centres; Mrs Grizelda Tyler, Chair
of Trustees of Welcare Accord Centre; Ms Angela Sibson, Chief
Executive, Relate; Ms Karin Walker, Vice-Chair of Board of Governors,
Mrs Anna Bloor, Member of the Board of Governors, United Kingdom
College of Family Mediators.
Ordered, That the Joint Committee be adjourned to
Thursday 3 March at quarter to 10 o'clock.
Thursday 3 March 2005 (morning)
Present:
Earl of Dundee Vera Baird
Baroness Gould of Potternewton Ann Coffey
Baroness Hooper Jonathan Shaw
Baroness Howarth of Breckland
Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne
Mr Clive Soley in the Chair
The Order of Adjournment is read.
The proceedings of Thursday 24 February are read.
The Joint Committee deliberate.
The following witnesses are examined:
Mr John Baker, Chairman, and Ms Sue Secker, Families
Need Fathers; Mr Peter Harris, Chairman, the Grandparents' Association,
Mr John Bell, Chairman, Both Parents Forever; Mr Nigel Cantwell,
UNICEF; Ms Gill Haworth, Director and Ms Naomi Angell, Legal Adviser,
Overseas Adoption Helpline; District Judge John Taylor and District
Judge Michael Walker, Association of District Judges.
Ordered, That the Joint Committee be adjourned to
today at half-past two o'clock.
Thursday 3 March 2005 (afternoon)
Present:
Baroness Gould of Potternewton Vera Baird
Baroness Hooper Ann Coffey
Baroness Howarth of Breckland Jonathan Shaw
Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne
Mr Clive Soley in the Chair
The Order of Adjournment is read.
The proceedings of the meeting this morning are read.
The Joint Committee deliberate.
The following witnesses are examined:
Ms Nicola Harwin, Chief Executive, Women's Aid; Ms
Natalie Cronin, Head of Policy, NSPCC; Rt Hon Margaret Hodge,
a Member of the House of Commons, Minister for Children, Young
People and Families, and Lord Filkin, a Member of the House of
Lords, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department for
Education and Skills.
Ordered, That the Joint Committee be adjourned to
Thursday 10 March at 10 o'clock.
Thursday 10 March 2005
Present:
Baroness Gould of Potternewton Vera Baird
Baroness Hooper Virginia Bottomley
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin Mr David Chidgey
Jonathan Shaw
Mr Clive Soley in the Chair
The Order of Adjournment is read.
The proceedings of Thursday 3 March are read.
The Joint Committee deliberate.
Ordered, That the Joint Committee be adjourned to
Thursday 17 March at 10 o'clock.
Thursday 17 March 2005
Present:
Earl of Dundee Vera Baird
Baroness Howarth of Breckland Mr David Chidgey
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin Ann Coffey
Jonathan Shaw
Mr Clive Soley in the Chair
The Order of Adjournment is read.
The proceedings of Thursday 10 March are read.
The Joint Committee deliberate.
Ordered, That the Joint Committee be adjourned to
Thursday 24 March at 10 o'clock.
Thursday 24 March 2005
Present:
Earl of Dundee Vera Baird
Baroness Gould of Potternewton Virginia
Bottomley
Baroness Hooper Mr David Chidgey
Baroness Howarth of Breckland Ann Coffey
Baroness Morgan of Drefelin
Mr Clive Soley in the Chair
The Order of Adjournment is read.
The proceedings of Thursday 17 March are read.
The Joint Committee deliberate.
It is moved that the draft Report before the Committee
be read.
The same is agreed to.
Paragraphs 1 to 172 are agreed to.
Resolved, That the draft Report be the Report of
the Committee to both Houses.
Ordered, That the memoranda received by the Committee
be appended to the Minutes of Evidence,
Ordered, That the provisions of Commons Standing
Order No. 134 (Select committees (reports)) be applied to the
Report.
Ordered, That the Chairman do make the report to
the House of Commons and Baroness Gould of Potternewton do make
the report to the House of Lords.
Ordered, That the Joint Committee be now adjourned.
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