Conclusions and recommendations
Pre-legislative scrutiny role
1. We
estimate that the additional task of conducting pre-legislative
scrutiny of LCOs has almost doubled the workload of the Committee
for its members (Paragraph 13)
2. We do not believe
that all proposed Orders should be referred to the Welsh Grand
Committee, but in the case of the most complex and wide-ranging
Orders, the option of a debate open to all Welsh MPs has proved
its worth. (Paragraph 15)
3. There is a clear
advantage in nominating members of the Welsh Affairs Committee
to serve on Delegated Legislation Committees in relation to draft
LCOs. (Paragraph 16)
4. Allowing debate
in the Welsh Grand Committee may be necessary if an LCO is particularly
controversial or has implications for specific constituencies
and localities. Holding a debate on the floor of the House enables
any MP from anywhere in the country to comment. We therefore consider
that these options should be retained, but used sparingly and
only when necessary (Paragraph 17)
Timing
5. For
those LCOs which have taken the longest time to proceed from their
announcement in the Assembly to approval in Parliament, the main
factor by a significant margin is the time taken up by negotiations
between the UK and Welsh Assembly Governments to agree on a text.
(Paragraph 21)
6. We consider that
the delay in respect of the Fire Sprinklers LCO was highly unsatisfactory
and that it was clear that a Legislative Competence Order would
achieve the desired outcome much earlier than any amendment to
building regulations, once devolved. The Committee hopes that
lessons can be learned from the unnecessary delays caused in bringing
this proposed Order forward. (Paragraph 24)
Future scrutiny of proposed Orders
7. We
consider that there should be a standing assumption that proposed
Orders will be scrutinised by the Welsh Affairs Committee once
they have been laid before the House, without the need for the
Secretary of State to specifically refer each Order to us. For
clarity, and depending on any other changes which may be made,
this could be specified in a Standing Order. In addition, the
Secretary of State should be required to provide notification
in writing to this committee as soon as an LCO is submitted to
the Wales Office, in order to enable us to undertake scrutiny
of the process in Whitehall and prepare the ground for our own
scrutiny to follow quickly when that is complete. (Paragraph
31)
8. We believe that
every proposed LCO should continue to undergo pre-legislative
scrutiny in the House of Commons. (Paragraph 33)
9. We consider it
important that we continue to issue a public call for written
submissions when we receive a proposed Order and that we allow
interested parties a reasonable time to respond. (Paragraph 34)
10. We will normally
wish to take oral evidence in connection with a proposed Order.
we would normally expect to hear from Welsh Assembly Government
and Wales Office Ministers, as well as the sponsoring Assembly
Member, in the case of private members' LCOs (Paragraph 35)
11. We consider that
an accelerated process of scrutiny could be implemented for LCOs
which appear to raise no significant legal or policy questions.
We intend to adopt this approach and would recommend it to our
successor committee in the next Parliament (Paragraph 36)
12. We agree that
we must give prompt consideration to LCOs which are referred to
us for scrutiny to avoid needless delay. It remains the case,
however, that some LCOs will raise issues of broad importance
to the people of Wales or may be of some legal complexity Proposed
Orders should receive proper scrutiny via a sustained inquiry
and the House of Commons should be fully informed about the implications
of any decision it is asked to make on extending the legislative
competence of the National Assembly for Wales. (Paragraph 37)
13. To avoid duplication
of effort, we can draw on evidence taken in the Assembly rather
than holding similar evidence sessions with the same witnesses.
This might mean that the number of oral evidence sessions at Westminster
could generally be reduced to a single session with Welsh Assembly
Government and Wales Office Ministers . We intend to adopt
this approach where possible and would recommend it to our successor
committee in the next Parliament. (Paragraph 38)
14. We can feel confident
in drawing on the evidence taken in the Assembly due to the strong
links we have established with our counterparts in Cardiff Bay.
(Paragraph 39)
Arrangements after the next General Election
15. Depending
on the date of the election, some proposed Orders may complete
the pre-legislative scrutiny process but may not be finally approved
by Parliament before dissolution. Those Orders will be a matter
for the new Parliament to consider, but we would not expect our
successor Committee to feel it necessary to repeat the pre-legislative
scrutiny process in cases where we have already reported on a
proposal. This would be a needless duplication of effort. (Paragraph
43)
16. We do not recommend
that pre-legislative scrutiny of LCOs should be undertaken by
ad hoc committees, established only to consider a single proposed
Order. (Paragraph 46)
17. We would support
a change to Standing Order 152 to allow departmental select committees
to establish more than one sub-committee simultaneously. This
may also benefit other select committees and we suggest that the
Procedure Committee might wish to consider this matter more
widely. (Paragraph 51)
18. It may not need
saying, but for the avoidance of doubt, we wish to put on record
our strong conviction about the continuing need for the work of
the Welsh Affairs Select Committee and we strongly urge the House
to maintain a Welsh Affairs Committee in the next Parliament both
to pursue the traditional role of the committee in the context
of devolution and to undertake pre-legislative scrutiny of
LCOs.
19. The Welsh Affairs Committee should retain
responsibility for pre-legislative scrutiny of proposed Orders.
There are procedural changes which would enable the process to
operate more smoothly in future. Some of these require changes
to Standing Orders and the new Parliament might provide the opportunity
for these to be made and for other committees to revise their
working practices at the same time should they so wish.
(Paragraph 54)
20. We recommend that,
from the new Parliament, the Welsh Affairs Committee be given
the power to invite any MP who is not a member of the Committee
to attend and ask questions during evidence sessions in respect
of LCOs. This change should allow more Members to be involved
in the pre-legislative scrutiny process. The attendance of other
Members would be at the invitation of the Committee, which is
best placed to decide whether their participation would be of
value in the context of any given inquiry. As a consequence, we
do not recommend any change to the current size of the Committee.
(Paragraph 56)
21. We recommend that
consideration be given to revising Standing Order 152 to allow
departmental select committees to establish more than one sub-committee
simultaneously. We suggest that the Procedure Committee might
wish to consider this matter in the first instance. (Paragraph
57)
Formal joint meetings
22. Whilst
there is little practical effect on the conduct of meetings, we
do not believe that the current wording of Standing Order No.
137A(3), which allows us to "invite members of any specified
committee of the National Assembly for Wales to attend and participate"
in our meetings reflects the actual experience of joint meetings.
We recommend that the Standing Order be updated to provide for
concurrent meetings, reflecting Standing Order 10.48 of the National
Assembly for Wales. (Paragraph 62)
Informal meetings
23. Informal
meetings have allowed us to benefit from the perspectives of the
Assembly Committee members and their reflections on the evidence
they have received, before writing our final Report and to join
up scrutiny at Westminster and Cardiff Bay. We now consider them
a vital part of our approach to our work on LCOs. (Paragraph 65)
Timing
24. Whilst
we do not consider that it would be appropriate to delay our inquiry
until after the relevant Assembly committee has reported, we do
consider that there is merit in publishing our Report slightly
after that of the Assembly committee. In this way, we are able
to build on the considered view of the Assembly committee and
avoid duplication. (Paragraph 67)
Whitehall Clearance
25. The
Secretary of State has said recently that the Wales Office has
'learned our lessons' and that delays with particular LCOs were
'avoidable'. We would welcome further elaboration from the Wales
Office on the nature of these delays and where they could have
been avoided, as well as its plans to ensure that they do not
occur in future. (Paragraph 76)
26. The Wales Office's
experience of LCOs as "a greater burden of work now than
at any time in its existence since 1999" is one that we would
recognise. It is unfortunate that the resources to deal with this
burden were not made available at an earlier stage, but we acknowledge
that the Wales Office is now making efforts to speed up the Whitehall
clearance process for proposed Orders. There remains, however,
an unacceptable lack of transparency within the process which
hampers our ability to assess any progress which may have been
made. (Paragraph 79)
27. We believe that
there is a strong case for a more formal reporting system on the
Whitehall clearance system. The Wales Office should provide this
Committee with a monthly update on the progress of all proposed
Orders together with an explanation of any delays. In the event
of this Committee being dissatisfied with progress, we intend
to call ministers and officials from Whitehall departments to
attend a meeting of the Committee along with a minister or official
of the Wales Office a in order to identify the issues that remained
unresolved, and to provide transparency about the process. (Paragraph
80)
The law in Wales since the Government of Wales
Act 2006
28. Processes
for passing legislation possess an inherent degree of complexity,
but we do not consider that the LCO procedure is intrinsically
any more complex than other legislative processes. (Paragraph
88)
29. We call for different
a type of drafting to be undertaken by the National Assembly for
Wales with the support and encouragement of the Wales Office and
the Office of Parliamentary Counsel. The traditional approach
within Whitehall is to draft any legislative clauses as widely
as possible and to give ill-defined powers to ministers and officials.
This arises from the wish to be able to deal with unanticipated
circumstances and it is understandable when a legislative opportunity
may not arise for a considerable period of time and perhaps for
many years. Such drafting is not justified given the speed and
efficiency of the LCO process, which makes it easy for the Assembly
to draft and submit a fresh LCO to deal with specific circumstances
that have not been anticipated in the drafting of existing legislation.
It follows that each LCO should be as well defined as possible
and should reflect the intention that has been stated by Ministers,
Assembly members and MPs for each LCO to contain 'what it says
on the tin'. (Paragraph 95)
30. We agree with
the Lords Constitution Committee that "clarity and transparency
in the law are elemental to the core constitutional principle
of the rule of law". The developing complexity of the law
in Wales therefore gives us cause for concern. This situation
arises not only from the legal complexity of certain individual
instruments, such as the Environment LCO, but also from the need
to keep track of a range of legislative vehicles through which
powers can be devolved either to the Assembly or Welsh Ministers.
(Paragraph 96)
31. A difficulty now
exists for legislators, ministers and civil servants, experts
and most particularly the general public, in establishing the
precise state of the law in Wales. In its report on the Environment
LCO, the Lords Constitution Committee recommends the creation
of "user-friendly explanations of the Assembly's evolving
legislative competence, both in the case of individual LCOs and,
on a regular basis, of Schedule 5 as a whole" to address
this difficulty. We agree that there is more work to be done to
establish a comprehensive and accessible 'Welsh statute book'
and consider that this should be combined with a more straightforward
approach to the drafting of proposed Orders and Explanatory Memoranda
on the part of the Wales Office and Welsh Assembly Government.
(Paragraph 97)
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