Government response
The Government welcomes this Report from the Liaison
Committee on the 30th anniversary of the establishment of the
departmental select committee system. The system was founded on
the principle that scrutiny of government was a fundamental activity
of the House that ought to be carried out in a thorough and systematic
way. Departmental select committees are still the central means
whereby the House carries out that function. The role of committees
has continued to develop and is now a central part of Parliament's
vital scrutiny role. In recent years, the introduction of core
tasks, including new tasks such as pre-legislative scrutiny and
pre-appointment hearings, has led to more effective and systematic
scrutiny.
Some of the Committee's conclusions and recommendations
are matters for the House. Responses to those specific recommendations
which are matters for the Government are set out below.
Work of the Liaison Committee
1. (Recommendations 1 & 2) We are grateful
to the Prime Minister for continuing his predecessor's practice,
established in 2002, of appearing before us at least twice a year.
We believe that these sessions, which give Members the chance
to question the Prime Minister more extensively than at the weekly
Prime Minister's question time, and in a less partisan atmosphere,
represent a valuable addition to the House's in-depth scrutiny
of the Government. However, we intend to review the frequency
and format of these sessions before the beginning of the next
Parliament, in the light of our experience over the last seven
years. (Paragraph 8)
The Prime Minister's appearances before the Liaison
Committee provide an effective opportunity for in-depth scrutiny
of a wide range of Government activity. The Prime Minister is
also accountable to the House in other ways and it is important
to strike the right balance between different forms of accountability.
The Liaison Committee sessions have already developed at the Committee's
request over the past year and the Government will be happy to
consider any further proposals, but does not consider that there
is a strong case for increasing the frequency of the sessions.
Scrutiny of draft bills
2. (Recommendation 3) We welcome the increase
in the number of Government bills published in draft, although
we agree that the number of bills published is not the only measure
of success (Paragraph 21)
The Government agrees with the Committee's conclusion.
The Government is committed to pre-legislative scrutiny as a way
of improving the quality of legislation by strengthening the legislative
process. However, as the Committee rightly notes, the number of
draft bills published in any given Session is not the only measure
of the success of pre-legislative scrutiny. Other considerations
include the suitability of particular measures for scrutiny in
draft and whether time and resources are available for effective
scrutiny. The Committee, in its final conclusion, also recognises
that committees should not become overloaded with tasks initiated
by Ministers.
3. (Recommendation 4) If the Government is serious
about consulting the House, there needs to be a more transparent
and better-organised process for deciding upon arrangements for
pre-legislative scrutiny than has been the case in the past. We
therefore welcome the Leader of the House's commitment to us to
engage in genuine consultation about the programme of pre-legislative
scrutiny. We hope to work with her and her fellow ministers during
the current session to make the new system work as effectively
as possible. We expect Ministers to take full account of our response
in taking forward plans for pre-legislative scrutiny of draft
bills. (Paragraph 28)
The Leader of the House wrote to the Committee on
the day of the Queen's Speech announcing the Government's proposed
draft bills for the Session and the Committee expressed an interest
in all the proposed draft Bills. There have been two subsequent
update letters.
The Government will of course take full account of
the Liaison Committee's views, and those of individual select
committees, in deciding on the best route for pre-legislative
scrutiny of each Bill. However, decisions about whether a given
bill should be scrutinised by a joint committee or by a select
committee of the House of Commons must also take account of expressions
of interest in the bill from the House of Lords. The decision
to establish a joint committee is ultimately one for the two Houses.
4. (Recommendation 5) We welcome the fact that
draft bills were published earlier in the 2007-08 session than
has sometimes been the case in the past. It is however regrettable
that, having succeeded in this aim, the process of appointing
joint committees to examine them was held up in the 'usual channels'.
It should have been possible for committees to meet as soon as
the bills were published, or even beforehand. Pre-legislative
scrutiny, if it is not to be rushed, takes a good twelve weeks.
Anything short of this will either place unreasonable demands
on Members, Peers and staff, or compromise the depth of the joint
committee's consideration (Paragraph 31)
The Government agrees that it is important to avoid
any unnecessary delay in establishing joint committees to consider
draft bills. The Government accepts that it would have been better
had the intervals the Committee identifies between publication
of draft bills and nomination of joint committees been shorter.
Establishing joint committees is ultimately a matter for the two
Houses and relies on the outcome of discussions within the usual
channels
Scrutiny of National Policy Statements on planning
issues
5. (Recommendation 6) We look forward to the publication
of standing orders providing for Parliamentary scrutiny of draft
National Policy Statements made under the Planning Act and expect
them to take into account the concerns raised by committee chairmen
in their discussions and correspondence. We welcome the constructive
dialogue on this issue between Ministers and the committees concerned,
and Ministers' readiness to take on board comments from committee
chairmen. We also believe that this is a good example of the way
in which the Liaison Committee can ensure that other committees
and the House as a whole are kept aware of discussions between
individual chairmen and the Government, and provide an additional
formal channel of communication (Paragraph 36)
The Government welcomes the contribution made by
the Committee and by individual chairmen to the development of
new Standing Orders to govern the consideration of proposals for
National Policy Statements under the Planning Act 2008. The Government
intends to put proposals to the House very soon.
The Government's Draft Legislative Programme
6. (Recommendation 7) We welcome the fact that
the Draft Legislative Programme was published significantly earlier
in the 2007-08 session than in the 2006-07 session, as this assists
committees in planning their forward work programmes (Paragraph
39)
Feedback from previous consultations on the draft
legislative programme suggests that a more thematic approach to
policy proposals would be more accessible than a list of bills.
This year's draft Programme will therefore be published in a different
format to previous years'. Though the Government aims to publish
the Programme as early as possible, it will not be able to publish
during the sensitive period immediately before the European Parliament
and local government elections on 4 June.
Scrutiny of Government expenditure
7. (Recommendation 9) We welcome the general improvement
in the quality of the explanatory memoranda about Estimates provided
by Government departments to departmental select committees (Paragraph
48)
The Government welcomes the Committee's assessment
that the quality of explanatory memoranda has improved. We will
continue to work closely with the Scrutiny Unit and with individual
committees to ensure that the memoranda meet committees' needs.
8. (Recommendation 10) We continue to support
the broad aims and principles of the Treasury's Alignment Project.
These can only fully achieve the intended improvement in financial
reporting and scrutiny if they are part of a process for consideration
of Estimates in the House of Commons which allows the House, informed
by its committees, to understand the information submitted in
a timely way, enabling appropriate consideration on the floor
of the House. We look forward to the more detailed memorandum
promised by the Government, and to continuing our engagement with
Treasury Ministers on this vital issue (Paragraph 52)
The Government welcomes the Committee's continued
interest in, and support for, the Alignment Project, which represents
a major opportunity to secure the significant prize of simplifying
and modernising the public expenditure system and improving accountability
to Parliament through greater transparency and better scrutiny
of government spending.
The Government will continue to engage fully with
Parliament and other key stakeholders in taking the project forward.
The Government's detailed proposals for better alignment
were set out in the second Parliamentary Memorandum (Cm 7567),
which was laid before the House on 5 March 2009. As noted in
Cm 7567, the Government would be grateful for the Committee's
agreement to its proposals by July 2009, so that a phased implementation
of the proposed new framework can begin from April 2010.
Pre-appointment hearings
9. (Recommendation 11) Although we are not in
full agreement with the Government over the list of posts available
for pre-appointment hearings by committees, we are pleased to
have reached agreement on the broad principles, and believe this
new system represents a significant improvement in the accountability
of public officials. We will keep the operation of the new arrangements
under review, but already a workable process seems to have developed
successfully, testing, on behalf of Parliament and the public,
the approach of a candidate to his or her new duties (Paragraph
62)
The Government believes that pre-appointment hearings
represent a significant enhancement to the scrutiny role of select
committees and is grateful to the Committee for the work it has
done to develop the new system. The Government will also continue
to keep the process under review.
Post-legislative scrutiny
10. (Recommendation 12) We believe that the Government's
proposals for post-legislative scrutiny have the potential to
make a valuable difference to the scrutiny of legislation. But
this will depend on both parties being able to play a full part
in the process: departments must publish timely memoranda about
the Acts concerned, and select committees will need to make a
careful assessment of the value of a full follow-up exercise.
Not every memorandum is likely to justify a full-scale inquiry
by a committee, which would put extra pressure on work programmes,
and could be particularly disruptive to committees shadowing departments
with a regularly large legislative programme (Paragraph 69)
The Government agrees that not every post-legislative
scrutiny memorandum will justify a full-scale select committee
inquiry. Committees should consider, in particular, whether there
is the scope for them to make recommendations which, if implemented,
might improve the operation of the Act in question in future years.
Timing of the publication of the departmental memoranda
will depend on the Act in question. The operation of an Act can
only be properly assessed once it has been in effect for long
enough for a suitable body of evidence about its operation to
be available.
We expect to publish further post-legislative memoranda
during 2008-09 and will continue to keep the emerging operation
of the system under review.
Debates on departmental objectives and plans
11. (Recommendation 13) We believe that the Government's
proposals for more systematic debates on Departments' objectives
and plans could provide a good opportunity for the House to make
use of select committee scrutiny of those objectives. We look
forward to cooperating with the Government to try and ensure that,
wherever possible, debates on departmental objectives and plans
take into account relevant inquiries and reports by committees
(Paragraph 73)
The Government is committed to liaising with relevant
committees and the Liaison Committee to try to ensure that any
select committee work is taken into account in the timing of any
debate on departmental objectives and plans.
So far, in addition to the established annual debates
on the work of certain departments, there have been debates on
the annual reports of the following departments:
· Department
for Business, Enterprise and Regulatory Reform (tagged to an Estimates
Day debate, 9 March 2009)
· Department
for Culture, Media and Sport (Westminster Hall, 22 January 2009)
· Foreign
and Commonwealth Office (tagged to a Government debate, 13 October
2008)
· Department
of Health (tagged to an Estimates Day debate, 16 December 2008)
Membership issues
12. (Recommendation 14) We welcome the expanding
scrutiny role of select committees and the extent of their remit.
However, we note the increased burden this places on Members.
There is a danger that increased responsibilities, such as pre-
and post-legislative work or pre- and post-appointment hearings,
and more and larger committees, may result in the perverse outcome
of an overall decrease in the quality of scrutiny. The advent
of regional committees, with an extra 72 places to fill, will
inevitably make further demands on Members' time. We have discussed
our concerns with the Chief Whips of the two main parties and
with the Leader of the House. An end to unilateral action to increase
committee sizes is required. In its place, there should be consultation
between the Whips and committee chairmen with the aim of adjustment
downward in the size of some committees no later than the start
of the next Parliament (Paragraph 80)
13. (Recommendation 15) We have already commented
on the time taken to appoint joint committees on draft bills.
There have also been delays in replacing Members on select committees.
While we recognise that there are many factors to be taken into
account in appointing select committee members, we reiterate the
need to speed up the process by which Members are appointed to
select committees. Long delays can mean committees are operating
below full strength, detracting from their effectiveness and making
it more difficult to keep a quorum (Paragraph 81)
The Government welcomes the growth and development
of systematic scrutiny by select committees. It is a central part
of the work of the House and it is right that there should be
plentiful opportunities for Members to participate in that work.
The Committee notes the significant growth in the number of select
and other committee places, from 275 in 1979-80, to 556 in 2008-09.
This is due largely to the growth in the number of departmental
select committees and to the growth in the number of other, cross-cutting
scrutiny committees. The House has also established regional select
committees for all regions, excluding London, to scrutinise the
work of the regional agencies and regional ministers.
In the Government's view, committees must be large
enough to reflect the composition of the House, including the
provision of adequate representation for smaller parties, and
to reflect the range of views within the parties. They must also
contain enough Members to avoid persistent problems in achieving
and maintaining a quorum.
However, the Government acknowledges the Committee's
concerns about the membership and attendance of some committees.
It is ultimately for the Committee of Selection to propose a new
member where a vacancy arises on a select committee. Members of
select committees are appointed for the duration of a Parliament,
unless the House otherwise orders, and it would be invidious to
alter their composition now. The Government will consider whether
to bring forward proposals for reducing the number of places on
certain committees at the beginning of the next Parliament.
Relations with Government departments
14. (Recommendation 16) While committees have
generally maintained good working relationships with their respective
departments, there remain some concerns over the timeliness and
quality of some Government responses. We accept that, on occasions,
the two-month deadline for replies may not be achievable. In these
instances, departments should provide regular updates to committees
on the reason for delay, and the expected date for a response.
It should not fall to the committee to chase the department. Equally,
Government replies must always seek to engage fully with the committees'
reports and address the evidence on which they are founded. We
reiterate the point we made last year, that departments should
"look upon parliamentary scrutiny as an important process
rather than a necessary evil" (Paragraph 87)
The Government accepts the Committee's recommendation.
There are occasions on which it is not possible to provide a response
within the two-month deadline, particularly where the Government
is giving serious consideration to accepting a recommendation
which could be complex to implement and needs to consider a number
of consequential issues. But departments should always advise
committees when responses are going to be delayed and, where possible,
of the reasons for any delay.
Information gathering
15. (Recommendation 17) The various models of
informal meetings by select committees reflect a developing trend
to enable a better dialogue with stakeholders and experts outside
the formality of the committee room (Paragraph 97)
16. (Recommendation 18) Online forums have proved
an important means of information-gathering for many committees.
They can give a voice to individuals who might otherwise not engage
with the work of Parliament. We once again encourage committees
to consider this type of information-gathering. (Paragraph 105)
17. (Recommendation 19) Video conferencing provides
a means of collecting evidence that is both cost-effective and
environmentally desirable, since it removes the need for flights
by either committee members or witnesses. We recommend that all
committees bear in mind this approach when considering how best
to gather information. (Paragraph 106)
The Government notes the innovative approaches to
information gathering adopted by various select committees.
Conclusion
18. (Recommendation 25) One of the most significant
pressures on committee resources is the availability of Members,
who already face many demands on their time. As we have already
noted, these demands are only exacerbated by committees being
too large, and too many committees being established. Committees'
autonomy is much prized by chairmen and Members. Although we welcome
the fact that the Government is seeking to increase Government's
accountability to Parliament through greater involvement of select
committees in such areas as pre- and post-appointment hearings,
National Policy Statements on planning and post-legislative scrutiny,
a proper balance has to be struck to avoid overloading committees
with tasks initiated by Ministers. We hope that the Government,
in its response to our report, will make clear that it understands
the need for this balance to be maintained (Paragraph 127)
The Government recognises the need to ensure that
select committees have adequate time and resources to devote to
activities of their own choosing. Committees can only scrutinise
government effectively when they are free to examine whatever
areas of government activity they choose. However, the Government
has increasingly sought to engage actively with select committees
by inviting them to consider specific proposals such as draft
bills and public appointments. The Government understands the
need to strike and maintain a balance between these two types
of activity. The Government cannot compel a select committee to
undertake a particular inquiry, nor should it have the means to
do so. The independence of individual committees, under the oversight
of the Liaison Committee, is the best guarantor that the right
balance will be preserved.
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