The
Committee consisted of the following
Members:
Bone,
Mr. Peter
(Wellingborough)
(Con)
Burt,
Lorely
(Solihull)
(LD)
Caborn,
Mr. Richard
(Sheffield, Central)
(Lab)
Corbyn,
Jeremy
(Islington, North)
(Lab)
Davidson,
Mr. Ian
(Glasgow, South-West)
(Lab/Co-op)
Dorries,
Nadine
(Mid-Bedfordshire)
(Con)
Grogan,
Mr. John
(Selby)
(Lab)
Heppell,
Mr. John
(Nottingham, East)
(Lab)
Ingram,
Mr. Adam
(East Kilbride, Strathaven and Lesmahagow)
(Lab)
Lucas,
Ian
(Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Business, Innovation
and Skills)
Main,
Anne
(St. Albans)
(Con)
Prisk,
Mr. Mark
(Hertford and Stortford)
(Con)
Smith,
Geraldine
(Morecambe and Lunesdale)
(Lab)
Thurso,
John
(Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross)
(LD)
Winnick,
Mr. David
(Walsall, North)
(Lab)
Wright,
Jeremy
(Rugby and Kenilworth)
(Con)
Mark Oxborough, Committee
Clerk
attended the
Committee
Ninth
Delegated Legislation
Committee
Wednesday 4
November
2009
[Hywel
Williams in the
Chair]
Financial
Assistance for Industry Motion (UK Innovation
Fund)
2.30
pm
The
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Business, Innovation and
Skills (Ian Lucas): I beg to
move,
That
the Committee has considered the motion, That this House authorises the
Secretary of State to undertake to pay, and to pay by way of financial
assistance under section 8 of the Industrial Development Act 1982, in
respect of the UK Innovation Fund, sums exceeding £10 million
and up to a cumulative total of £150
million.
The
Chairman: With this it will be convenient to consider the
motion,
That
this House authorises the Secretary of State to undertake to pay, and
to pay by way of financial assistance under section 8 of the Industrial
Development Act 1982, in respect of the Car Scrappage Scheme, an
additional sum of up to £100
million.
Ian
Lucas: Under the provisions of section 8 of the Industrial
Development Act 1982, the Government are required to seek parliamentary
approval for financial assistance when sums exceed £10
million.
I
should have said that I am delighted to appear before you for the first
time, Mr. Williams. I am happy that the Committee has agreed
to consider both motions together, and am grateful to the hon. Member
for Hertford and Stortford and the hon. Member for Solihull for their
agreement to doing so. I will seek to curtail the debate as much as I
can, consistent, of course, with proper
scrutiny.
The
UK innovation investment fund was announced by the Prime Minister on 29
June, as part of the Building Britains Future
document. The rationale for the creation of the fund was the
difficulties encountered in the current economic downtown by
technology-based businesses that were dependent upon equity finance.
There are about 1,093 venture capital backed technology companies in
the UK, employing more than 40,000 highly skilled people. Those
companies are active in key strategic sectors of the UK economy, such
as life sciences, information and communications technology, and clean
technologies. There is strong evidence that venture capital backed
businesses significantly outperform other companies, with higher levels
of employment, exports and growth. However, the total amount of venture
capital invested in early-stage technology companies in the UK in 2007
was down £45 million from 2005, and key indicators suggest that
it will fall significantly further in 2008 and 2009, putting those
companies at risk.
To address
those problems, Ministers have decided to create a UK innovation
investment fund. UKIIF will operate as a fund of funds, with a
cornerstone investment of £150 million from Her Majestys
Government, funded by £100 million from the Department for
Business,
Innovation and Skills, £25 million from the Department of Health,
and £25 million from the Department of Energy and Climate
Change, with the ambition of increasing the value of the fund to
£1 billion over 12 to 15 years. The objectives of UKIIF will be
to support technology businesses in strategically important UK sectors
in which the UK has a competitive advantage; safeguard the
Governments record investment in the science and research base;
leverage private sector investment to support high-technology firms and
address the long-standing equity gap; boost the venture capital and
syndication markets in the UK at a time when they are most vulnerable;
and provide a cost-effective solution that delivers both a market
return to private sector investors, and a return to the
Government.
HMG
investment will be on an equal terms basis with that of other
investorsprivate sector and overseas investors, perhaps. The
fund will be managed by a professional fund of funds manager with a
proven track record in raising capital for investment in technology
venture capital funds, and in successful investment in the UK
technology sector. UKIIF will invest in a small number of technology
venture capital funds operated by experienced fund managers. The fund
will invest throughout the UK, and in companies that require equity
finance at all stages of development.
To ensure
that the underlying technology fund mangers have the maximum
flexibility to make investments in companies that they believe have
significant potential, we seek approval to allow them to invest amounts
of more than £10 million in individual companies. We believe
that such investments will be made only in exceptional cases, but it is
important that fund mangers have discretion to make the investments
that they believe will fulfil UKIIF objectives. The motion seeks a
resolution enabling the Government to do
that.
Mr.
Mark Prisk (Hertford and Stortford) (Con): The Minister is
setting out what could be a very useful device, but it rather jars with
the remarks made yesterday by the noble Lord
Sugar:
I
can honestly say a lot of problems you hear from people who are moaning
are from companies I wouldnt lend a penny to. They are bust.
The moaners are bust. They are bust and they dont need the
bankthey need an insolvency
practitioner.
Does
the Minister agree with his colleague?
Ian
Lucas: In life there are moaners and there are successful
people, and in a vibrant economy, some businesses succeed and some
fail. I have not discussed the quotation to which the hon. Gentleman
refers, but I have noted it carefully and will look at it more
closely.
I shall move
on to the scrappage scheme, which I am sure the Committee will agree is
very
successful.
Mr.
Adam Ingram (East Kilbride, Strathaven and Lesmahagow)
(Lab): Before my hon. Friend moves on, could he expand a
little more on the investment fund? Is it genuinely an investment fund
in which the Government will invest and will, therefore, get the
benefits of growth in the companies? What is the percentage of our
potential return? There may be lossesLord Sugar
notwithstanding. There is associated risk, but there may be great
success, as well.
Ian
Lucas: That is absolutely the case, and of course
Government have an important interest in the success of, first, the
overall economy and, secondly, the sector supported by venture capital.
As I indicated, there is evidence that there will be great benefits to
the development of not only the overall economy but also high-skill
areas with the associated high-value jobs. UKIIF is a strategic
long-term investment fund and partnering will be at the core of how it
is run. The benefits will therefore accrue partly to the Government and
partly to the other partners. Not every company will always succeed, so
risk has to be shared too. The Government see the fund as extremely
important to the development of a high-technology economy and
high-technology industries.
Mr.
Ingram: May I draw out my hon. Friend on that point? When
the private sector invests, it takes a percentage share in the company
and expects an extraction of profitsusually, it is about
floating the company and making it bigger once it is floated. What will
the Government do to mirror what is done in the private sector? I
repeat my earlier question: what percentage are we taking? Have we set
a percentage, or will it be
variable?
Ian
Lucas: The fund itself will be managed by the managers of
the fund and, rather than Government setting prescriptive percentages
for each individual project, it is appropriate for us to be involved in
and connected to the management of the fund and to assess individual
projects and make decisions based upon their circumstances. I am not
sure that the best approach is to prescribe, at this juncture, the
specific percentages that the fund should allocate. We are recruiting
skilled fund managers to take the fund
forward.
Mr.
Prisk: To tease this question out further, I understand
that the operational managerial decision on individual investments must
rest with the fund manager, but I think that the question asked by the
right hon. Member for East Kilbride, Strathaven and Lesmahagow, to
which taxpayers will want an answer, is about how much oversight the
hon. Gentleman, as a Minister, will exercise to ensure that taxpayers
do not pick up the greater share of the risk. It is about understanding
the balance and the fund as a whole. We recognise the leverage between
£150 million and £1 billion. Can the Minister tell us
what precautions are being put in place to ensure that the taxpayer
does not end up with the greater risk?
Ian
Lucas: I think that I can assist the hon. Gentleman. As I
said in my opening remarks, the risk will on equal terms. That was
explicit. The greater part of the risk will not be borne by the
taxpayer.
Mr.
David Winnick (Walsall, North) (Lab): The Minister has
been very generous and I apologise for coming in a few minutes late.
Without wishing to be parochial, we in the west midlands are concerned
about the current situationrising unemployment and the rest of
itand we remember only too well the devastation that occurred
in the 80s. Will the assistance apply no less to the west
midlands than to elsewhere?
Ian
Lucas: I respect my hon. Friends great knowledge
of the economy, acquired over many years, and, in particular, of the
great difficulties in the west midlands in the 1980s. As I made clear
in my opening remarks, the fund will apply across the UK. Projects will
be assessed on their merit in terms of their economic potential. I will
welcome projects from the west midlands, which is a great manufacturing
area.
[Interruption.]
Mr.
Winnick: It is the west midlands
calling.
Ian
Lucas: Is it the
Birmingham
Post?
That
brings me neatly to the scrappage scheme. Thirty-eight vehicle
manufacturers signed up to the UK vehicle scrappage scheme, which was
introduced in May and has proved highly popular with consumers and the
industry alike. Originally, consumers were offered a £2,000
discount on a new car or van if they traded in a 10-year-old vehicle
that they had owned for 12 months or more£1,000 from
Government with minimum matched funding from
industry.
The
scheme was set up with £300 million Government funding to
operate from 18 May until March 2010, or sooner if that funding was
used up. On 28 September, the Secretary of State for Business,
Innovation and Skills announced plans to extend the scheme with an
additional £100 million, which is subject to the approval of
this Committee. That announcement was welcomed by the automotive
industry and more widely by a range of business organisations,
including the Confederation of British Industry. Even second-hand
dealerships have reported improved sales figures as a knock-on effect
of the scheme and have joined calls for its
extension.
On
23 October, changes were made to the scheme to ensure that all
10-year-old cars still qualified and to reduce the age eligibility of
vans to eight years were implemented, making the scheme accessible to
even more consumers. On 11 May, the House authorised expenditure of up
to £300 million for the scheme. The second motion seeks approval
for the additional £100 million
proposed.
The
recession has been very challenging for the automotive sector and its
supply chain. The scheme was introduced against a backdrop of UK
vehicle production having fallen by more than 50 per cent. in early
2009 compared with early 2008. It was designed to stimulate consumer
demand and give a short-term boost to the whole UK automotive industry.
Evidence shows that the scheme has achieved that. Paul Everitt, chief
executive of the Society of Motor Manufacturers and Traders, recently
said:
The
rate of decline in new car production slowed to its lowest level in a
year with the volume of vehicles being produced for the UK market
comparatively
high.
The
additional £100 million will ensure that the stimulus provided
by the scheme can continue until the end of February 2010, with some
effects carrying on into June as outstanding orders are delivered.
Naturally, the scheme brings forward some sales that would have
occurred eventually in the future, and there may be an offsetting
adjustment down the line. Evidence suggests that the state of the
industry remains fragile. The industry, while agreeing that the scheme
should close no later than February 2010, has made it clear that it
continues to need help. A stronger UK automotive industry will be
better placed to take advantage of the opportunities emerging from the
development of low-carbon technology and
vehicles.
The
scheme remains strictly time-limited, financially capped and
proportionate, to minimise impacts on other parts of the economy. With
the additional funding, the scheme can continue to deliver the
necessary short-term boost that the automotive industry needs
now.
2.45
pm