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The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock.
PRAYERS.
1 Private Bills [Lords] (Suspension),—Ordered, That so much of the Lords Message [17th November] as relates to the London Local Authorities and Transport for London (No. 2) Bill [Lords] be now considered.
Lords Message considered accordingly.
Resolved, That this House concurs with the Lords in their Resolution.
Message to the Lords to acquaint them therewith.
2 Private Bills [Lords] (Suspension),—Ordered, That so much of the Lords Message [17th November] as relates to the Transport for London (Supplemental Toll Provisions) Bill [Lords] be now considered.
Lords Message considered accordingly.
Resolved, That this House concurs with the Lords in their Resolution.
Message to the Lords to acquaint them therewith.
3 Broads Authority Bill,—Ordered, That so much of the Lords Message [17th November] as relates to the Broads Authority Bill be now considered.
Lords Message considered accordingly.
Ordered, That the promoters of the Broads Authority Bill, which was originally introduced in this House in Session 2006-07 on 23rd January 2007, should have leave to suspend any further proceedings on the Bill in order to proceed with it, if they think fit, in the next Session of Parliament according to the provisions of Private Business Standing Order 188A (Suspension of bills).—(Second Deputy Chairman of Ways and Means.)
Message to the Lords to acquaint them therewith.
4 Message from the Lords,—A Message was brought from the Lords as follows:
The Lords agree, without Amendment, to the Amendments made by this House to the Local Transport Bill [Lords].
The Lords agree to one of the Amendments made by this House to the Dormant Bank and Building Society Accounts Bill [Lords], with an Amendment in lieu of the words left out of the Bill, to which they desire the concurrence of this House; they agree to another of the Commons Amendments with an Amendment, to which they desire the concurrence of this House; and they agree, without Amendment, to the remaining Amendments made by this House.
5 Dormant Bank and Building Society Accounts Bill [Lords],—Lords Amendments in lieu of, or to, certain Commons Amendments to the Dormant Bank and Building Society Accounts Bill to be considered to-morrow; and to be printed [Bill 173].
6 Road Traffic (Accident Compensation),—Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to provide for no-fault compensation for personal injury in road traffic accidents where liability cannot be established: And that Dr Brian Iddon, Dr Desmond Turner, Dr Ian Gibson, Mr David Kidney, Mark Lazarowicz and Christopher Fraser do prepare and bring it in.
7 Road Traffic (Accident Compensation) Bill,—Dr Brian Iddon accordingly presented a Bill to provide for no-fault compensation for personal injury in road traffic accidents where liability cannot be established: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 21st November and to be printed [Bill 167].
8 Counter-Terrorism Bill (Programme) (No. 3),—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 83A (Programme motions), That the following provisions shall apply to the Counter-Terrorism Bill for the purpose of supplementing the Order of 1st April 2008 (Counter-Terrorism Bill (Programme)):
Consideration of Lords Amendments
1. Proceedings on consideration of Lords Amendments shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion at this day's sitting at the moment of interruption.
2. The Lords Amendments shall be considered in the following order, namely Nos. 2, 106, 133, 3, 15, 82, 113, 127, 1, 4 to 14, 16 to 81, 83 to 105, 107 to 112, 114 to 126, and 128 to 132.
Subsequent stages
3. Any further Message from the Lords may be considered forthwith without any Question being put.
4. The proceedings on any further Message from the Lords shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion one hour after their commencement—(Helen Goodman):—It was agreed to.
9 Counter-Terrorism Bill,—The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the Lords Amendments to the Counter-Terrorism Bill.
An Amendment ((a)) was proposed to the Lords Amendment, in line 4, to leave out the words 'governmental agencies' and insert the words 'such governmental agencies as he considers appropriate', instead thereof.—(Damian Green.)
And the Question being put, That the Amendment be made;
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Richard Benyon, Mr Crispin Blunt: 154.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Frank Roy, Chris Mole: 329.
So the Question was negatived.
A Motion was made and the Question being put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment—(Mr Vernon Coaker);
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Frank Roy, Chris Mole: 277.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Richard Benyon, Mr Crispin Blunt: 209.
So the Question was agreed to.
The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to.
Lords Amendment No. 106.
A Motion was made and the Question being put, That this House disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment—(Mr Vernon Coaker);
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Ian Lucas, Mr Dave Watts: 284.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Crispin Blunt, Mr Richard Benyon: 220.
So the Question was agreed to.
The Lords Amendment was accordingly disagreed to.
Lords Amendments Nos. 133, 3 and 15 were disagreed to.
Ordered, That Clause 33 be transferred to the end of line 4 on page 64—(Mr Vernon Coaker.)
Amendments ((a)) and ((b)) were made to the Bill, in lieu of Lords Amendment No. 15 disagreed to.
Lords Amendments Nos. 82, 113, 127, 1 and 4 to 14 agreed to, the Commons being willing to waive their privileges in respect of Lords Amendment Nos. 82, 113 and 127.
Lords Amendment No. 16.
An Amendment ((a)) was proposed to the Lords Amendment, in line 13, after the word 'to' to insert—
And the Question being put, That the Amendment be made;
The House divided.
Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Richard Benyon, Mr Crispin Blunt: 208.
Tellers for the Noes, Mr Frank Roy, Ian Lucas: 284.
So the Question was negatived.
The Lords Amendment was agreed to.
Lords Amendments Nos. 17 to 81, 83 to 105, 107 to 112 and 114 to 115 were agreed to.
Consequential Amendment ((a)) made to the Bill.
Lords Amendments Nos. 116 to 126 and 128 to 132 were agreed to.
Title accordingly amended as follows: A Bill to confer further powers to gather and share information for counter-terrorism and other purposes; to make further provision about the detention and questioning of terrorist suspects and the prosecution and punishment of terrorist offences; to impose notification requirements on persons convicted of such offences; to confer further powers to act against terrorist financing, money laundering and certain other activities; to provide for review of certain Treasury decisions and about evidence in, and other matters connected with, review proceedings; to amend the law relating to inquiries; to amend the definition of "terrorism"; to amend the enactments relating to terrorist offences, control orders and the forfeiture of terrorist cash; to provide for recovering the costs of policing at certain gas facilities; to amend provisions about the appointment of special advocates in Northern Ireland; and for connected purposes.
A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 83H (Programme orders: reasons committee) and Order [this day], That a Committee be appointed to draw up Reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to their Amendments Nos. 2, 3, 106 and 133.
That Mr Vernon Coaker, Damian Green, Chris Huhne, Steve McCabe and Phil Wilson be members of the Committee.
That Mr Vernon Coaker be the Chairman of the Committee.
That three be the Quorum of the Committee.
That the Committee do withdraw immediately—(Mr Ian Austin):—It was agreed to.
10 Counter-Terrorism Bill,—Mr Vernon Coaker reported from the Committee appointed to draw up Reasons to be assigned to the Lords for disagreeing to certain of their Amendments to the Counter-Terrorism Bill, That it had drawn up the following Reasons, which it had directed him to report to the House:
The Commons disagree to Lords Amendment No. 2 for the following Reason:
Because it would involve a charges on public funds, and the Commons do not offer any further Reason, trusting that this Reason may be deemed sufficient.
The Commons disagree to Lords Amendment No. 3 for the following Reason:
Because the provision made by the amendment has no legal effect.
The Commons disagree to Lords Amendment Nos. 106 and 133 for the following Reason:
Because sensitive material should not be disclosed to members of the public.
The Reasons were agreed to.
Message to the Lords to communicate the said Reasons, with the Bill and Amendments.
11 Public Petition,—A Public Petition from residents of Cornwall and others relating to health services (Cornwall) was presented and read.
12 Adjournment.
Subject: Lymington River and the Habitats Directive (Mr Desmond Swayne).
A Motion was made and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn—(Mr Frank Roy);
And it being Seven o'clock, the Motion for the adjournment of the House lapsed, without Question put.
Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr Bob Blizzard.)
And accordingly, the House, having continued to sit till twenty-nine minutes past Seven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 7.29 p.m.
Michael J. Martin
Speaker
Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Ten o'clock.
APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
1 Consumer Protection,—Medical Devices (Amendment) Regulations 2008 (S.I., 2008, No. 2936), dated 12th November 2008 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum and Impact Assessment [by Command] [Secretary Alan Johnson].
2 Medicines,—Medicines (Pharmacies) (Applications for Registration and Fees) Amendment Regulations 2008 (S.I., 2008, No. 2946), dated 12th November 2008 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum and Impact Assessment [by Command] [Secretary Alan Johnson].
3 Pensions,—Judicial Pensions and Retirement Act 1993 (Addition of Qualifying Judicial Offices) (No. 2) Order 2008 (S.I., 2008, No. 2947), dated 13th November 2008 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Secretary Hazel Blears].
4 Pensions (Northern Ireland),—Pensions Appeal Tribunals (Northern Ireland) (Amendment) Rules 2008 (S.R. (N.I.), 2008, No. 444), dated 11th November 2008 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Secretary Jack Straw].
Other Papers:
5 Education and Inspections,—Report of Her Majesty's Chief Inspector of Education, Children's Services and Skills for 2007-08 [by Act]; to be printed [No. 1114] [Secretary Ed Balls].
6 Law Commissions,—Report of the Law Commission on Reforming Bribery [by Act]; to be printed [No. 928] [Secretary Jack Straw].
7 National Audit,—Report by the Comptroller and Auditor General on Natural England's Role in Improving Sites of Special Scientific Interest [by Act]; to be printed [No. 1051] [Clerk of the House].
8 Taxes,—Explanatory Memorandum to the Taxes (Fees for Payment by Internet) Regulations (S.I., 2008, No. 2991) [by Command] [Stephen Timms].
9 Treasure,—Treasure Report for 2005 and 2006 [by Act] [Secretary Andy Burnham].
Papers withdrawn:
10 Taxes,—Explanatory Memorandum to the Taxes (Fees for Payment by Internet) Regulations (S.I., 2008, No. 2991) [laid 18th November].
APPENDIX II
General Committees
European Committees
11 European Union Document No. 16488/07 and Addenda 1 and 2, relating to Procurement in the fields of defence and security:
(1) The Speaker has appointed Mrs Janet Dean Chairman; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated thirteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Simon Burns, Mr David Crausby, Mr Quentin Davies, Mr Brian H. Donohoe, Helen Goodman, Mr Greg Hands, Nick Harvey, Keith Hill, Mr Bernard Jenkin, Eric Joyce, Mr Denis MacShane, Dr Andrew Murrison and Willie Rennie.
12 European Union Document No. 12149/08 and Addenda 1 and 2, No. 13713/08 and Addenda 1 and 2 and No. 14317/08, relating to Financial Services:
(1) The Speaker has appointed Mr John Bercow Chairman; and
(2) the Committee of Selection has nominated thirteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Jeremy Browne, Dr Vincent Cable, Mr Michael Clapham, Jim Cousins, Jim Dobbin, Mr Michael Fallon, Helen Goodman, Mr Mark Hoban, Mr Brooks Newmark, Stephen Pound, Mr Anthony Steen, Mr Stephen Timms and Paddy Tipping.
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
1 Children, Schools and Families,—Draft Apprenticeships Bill: Fourth Report from the Children, Schools and Families Committee, with a Memorandum; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 1082] [Mr Barry Sheerman].
2 Environment, Food and Rural Affairs,—Waste Strategy for England 2007: Minutes of Evidence taken before the Sub-committee of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee; to be printed [No. 1100-iii] [Mr Michael Jack].
3 Foreign Affairs,—Global Security: Non-Proliferation: Minutes of Evidence taken before the Foreign Affairs Committee; to be printed [No. 1176-ii] [Mike Gapes].
4 Health,—Health Inequalities: Minutes of Evidence taken before the Health Committee; to be printed [No. 422-xi] [Mr Kevin Barron].
5 Innovation, Universities, Science and Skills,—(1) Engineering in Government:
(i) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Innovation, Universities, Science and Skills Committee; to be printed [No. 1194-i]; and
(ii) Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be published; and
(2) Geo-engineering: Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be published
6 Northern Ireland Affairs,—Cross-border co-operation: Minutes of Evidence taken before the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee; to be printed [No. 1174-ii] [Sir Patrick Cormack].
7 Public Accounts,—The United Kingdom's future nuclear deterrent capability: Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee of Public Accounts; to be printed [No. 1154-i] [Mr Edward Leigh].
8 Scottish Affairs,—Office of the Advocate General for Scotland: Minutes of Evidence taken before the Scottish Affairs Committee; to be printed [No. 1149-i] [Mr Mohammad Sarwar].
9 Statutory Instruments,—(1)Thirty-second Report from the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments, to be printed [No. 38-xxxii]; and
(2) Sixth Report from the Select Committee on Statutory Instruments, to be printed [No. 39-vi]
10 Treasury,—Banking Crisis:
(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Treasury Committee; to be printed [No. 1167-iv]; and
(2) Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be published
11 Work and Pensions,—(1) Department for Work and Pensions' IT Procurement: Minutes of Evidence taken before the Work and Pensions Committee, with Memoranda; to be printed [No. 1203-i]; and
(2) Department for Work and Pensions' commissioning strategy and the employment programme market: Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be published
[W.H., No. 68]
Minutes of Proceedings of the Sitting in Westminster Hall
The sitting began at half-past Nine o'clock.
Adjournment.
Policy on the Stern Report (Mr Peter Lilley).
RAF support to operations in Afghanistan and Iraq (Mr Mark Lancaster).
Rail links to the continent (Mr David Kidney).
Parliamentary accountability of nuclear industry finances (Paul Flynn).
Remploy and public procurement (Annette Brooke).
Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.—(Mr Dave Watts.)
And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 5.11 p.m.
Sir Alan Haselhurst
Deputy Speaker
CORRIGENDUM
In the Votes and Proceedings for Tuesday 11th November, in Appendix III, item 2 (3) should read:
(3) Consumer Focus: Minutes of Evidence taken before the Business and Enterprise Committee; to be printed [No.1182-i]
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