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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Wednesday 22nd October 2008

The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1    Third Delegated Legislation Committee,—Joan Walley reported from the Third Delegated Legislation Committee the Stamp Duty Land Tax (Variation of Part 4 of the Finance Act 2003) Regulations 2008 (S.I., 2008, No. 2338).

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

2    Health and Safety (Education and Training),—Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to make requirements about the integration of health and safety issues in education and vocational training; and for connected purposes: And that Mr George Howarth, Mr Tim Boswell, Mr Terry Rooney, Mr Edward O'Hara, Mr Michael Clapham, Paul Rowen, Harry Cohen, Bob Russell, Mr Mike Hancock, Mr Elfyn Llwyd, Mr Peter Kilfoyle and Joan Ryan do prepare and bring it in.

3    Health and Safety (Education and Training) Bill,—Mr George Howarth accordingly presented a Bill to make requirements about the integration of health and safety issues in education and vocational training; and for connected purposes: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 31st October and to be printed [Bill 155].

4    Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill [Lords] (Programme) (No. 2),—A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That the Order of 12th May 2008 (Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill [Lords] (Programme)) be varied as follows:

    1. Paragraphs 10 and 11 of the Order shall be omitted.

    2. Proceedings on consideration shall be taken in the following order: amendments to the clauses of the Bill; amendments to the Schedules to the Bill; new Clauses; new Schedules; remaining proceedings on consideration.

    3. Proceedings on consideration shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion at 6 p.m. at this day's sitting.

    4. Proceedings on Third Reading shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a conclusion at 7 p.m. at this day's sitting—(Dawn Primarolo);

The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Helen Goodman, Mr Dave Watts: 322.

      Tellers for the Noes, Dr Evan Harris, Mr Lee Scott: 157.

So the Question was agreed to.

5    Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill [Lords],—The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill [Lords], as amended in the Committee and in the Public Bill Committee.

    Amendment (No. 49) proposed to the Bill, in page 3, line 26, after the word 'transmission', to insert the words 'via cytoplasm'.—(Dr John Pugh.)

    Question proposed, That the Amendment be made.

6    Deferred Divisions,—The Deputy Speaker announced the results of the Divisions which had been deferred to this day, pursuant to Standing Order No. 41A (Deferred divisions):

    Political Parties and Elections Bill (Carry-over),—That if, at the conclusion of this Session of Parliament, proceedings on the Political Parties and Elections Bill have not been completed, they shall be resumed in the next Session.

      Ayes: 285.

      Noes: 216.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    Competition,—That the Enterprise Act 2002 (Specification of Additional Section 58 Consideration) Order 2008 (S.I., 2008, No. 2645), dated 6th October, a copy of which was laid before this House on 7th October, be approved.

      Ayes: 424.

      Noes: 64.

    So the Question was agreed to.

7    Human Fertilisation and Embryology Bill [Lords],—Question again proposed, That the Amendment be made.

    Question put.

The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Ann Winterton, Mrs Nadine Dorries: 215.

      Tellers for the Noes, Claire Ward, Steve McCabe: 299.

    It being after Six o'clock, the Speaker proceeded to put the Question on an Amendment selected for separate decision, pursuant to Order [this day].

    Another Amendment (No. 41) proposed to the Bill, in page 3, line 26, at the end, to insert the words—

    '(5A) Regulations made under subsection (5) may not provide for an egg or embryo whose nuclear genetic material has been altered by genetic modification, or whose nucleus has been replaced by the nucleus of a somatic cell, to be a permitted egg or a permitted embryo.

    (5B) In this section, "genetic modification" includes the alteration of the nuclear genetic material of an egg or embryo by—

    (a) recombinant nucleic acid techniques which change the DNA sequence of nuclear chromosomes of the egg or one or more cells of the embryo, or

    (b) the introduction into the egg or into one or more cells of the embryo of a stably-maintained artificial chromosome, virus or plasmid.'.—(Mr David Drew.)

    Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Brian Binley, Mr David Burrowes: 206.

      Tellers for the Noes, Claire Ward, Steve McCabe: 298.

    The Speaker then put the Question on an Amendment moved by a Minister of the Crown.

    Amendment (No. 4) made to the Bill.

    The Speaker then put the Question on another Amendment selected for separate decision.

    Another Amendment (No. 47) proposed to the Bill, in page 4, line 37, at the end, to insert the words—

    '(f) an embryo created by combining pluripotent or totipotent human cells with amimal embryonic cells in which the latter have been altered so as to contain double the number of chromosomes, or in which the animal cells have been otherwise altered to become largely or entirely extra-embryonic tissue.'.—(Mr David Burrowes.)

    Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Anne Main, David Taylor: 194.

      Tellers for the Noes, Steve McCabe, Claire Ward: 306.

    The Speaker then put the Question on other Amendments moved by a Minister of the Crown.

    Other Amendments (5 to 7, 75 to 77 and 8 to 20) made to the Bill.

    The Speaker then put the Question on another Amendment selected for separate decision.

    Another Amendment (No. 50) proposed to the Bill, in page 53, line 19, at the end, to insert the words—

    '(2A) This section shall be subject to section (prohibition on placing human gametes into an animal).'.—(Dr John Pugh.)

    Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Jim Dobbin, Mr Brian Binley: 183.

      Tellers for the Noes, Claire Ward, Steve McCabe: 308.

    The Speaker then put the Question on the remaining Amendments moved by a Minister of the Crown.

    Amendments (Nos. 21 to 35, 78 and 79) made to the Bill.

    A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That the Bill be now read the third time;

    And it being Seven o'clock, the Speaker put the Question, pursuant to Order [this day].

The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Frank Roy, Claire Ward: 355.

      Tellers for the Noes, John Howell, Mr David Amess: 129.

So the Question was agreed to. The Bill was accordingly read the third time, and passed, with Amendments.

8    Cross-Border Healthcare,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 119 (European Committees), That this House takes note of European Union Documents No. 11327/08 and Addendum 1, Commission Communication, a Community framework on the application of patients' rights in cross-border healthcare and No. 11307/08 and Addenda 1 to 3, draft Directive on the application of patients' rights in cross-border healthcare; agrees with the Government on the desirability of EU legislation to clarify the operation of cross-border healthcare to provide certainty for patients; and supports the Government's belief that the UK should continue to pro-actively engage in this area in order to achieve the maximum influence over the shape of the debate and final Directive—(Ms Diana R. Johnson):—It was agreed to.

9    Public Petitions,—Public Petitions from—

    (1) residents in the vicinity of Exmoor national park and others relating to planning and development (Exmoor);

    (2) residents of Bridgwater and others relating to care services (Somerset);

    (3) Phil Faber and others relating to criminal convictions; and

    (4) the War Memorial Fund Raising Committee, members of the Royal British Legion and residents of Canvey Island relating to war memorials (Essex)

    were presented and read.

10    Adjournment.

    Subject: British nuclear test veterans (John Baron).

    Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr Frank Roy.)

    And accordingly, the House, having continued to sit till sixteen minutes to Eight o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 7.44 p.m.

Michael J. Martin

Speaker


Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Ten o'clock.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:

1    Criminal Law,—Draft Youth Justice Board for England and Wales (Amendment) Order 2008 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Secretary Jack Straw].

2    Legal Services,—Draft Legal Services Act 2007 (Functions of a Designated Regulator) Order 2008 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Secretary Jack Straw].

Other Papers:

3    Communications,—Government Response to the First Report from the House of Lords Communications Committee, Session 2007-08, on the Ownership of the News [by Command] [Cm. 7486] [Secretary Andy Burnham].

4    Culture, Media and Sport,—Report and Financial Statements of the Museum of London for 2007-08 [by Command] [Secretary Andy Burnham].

5    Intergovernmental Organisations,—Government Response to the First Report from the House of Lords Select Committee on Intergovernmental Organisations, Session 2007-08 on Diseases Know No Frontiers: How effective are Intergovernmental Organisations in controlling their spread? [by Command] [Cm. 7475] [Secretary Alan Johnson].

6    Justice,—Government Response to the Fifth Report from the Justice Committee, Session 2007-08, on Towards Effective Sentencing [by Command] [Cm. 7476] [Secretary Jack Straw].

7    Reserve Forces,—Report under section 56(7) of the Reserve Forces Act 1996 on the making of a call-out order under section 56(1) of that Act, dated 22nd October 2008 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Hutton].

8    Treaty Series (No. 12, 2008),—Protocol, done at London on 7th November 2007, between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of New Zealand to amend the Convention for the Avoidance of Double Taxation and the Prevention of Fiscal Evasion with respect to Taxes on Income and on capital Gains, signed at London on 4th August 1983, as Amended by the Protocol signed at London on 4th November 2003 [by Command] [Cm. 7488] [Secretary David Miliband].

APPENDIX II

General Committees

1    Banking Bill,—The Speaker has appointed Mr Eric Illsley as an additional Chairman of the Banking Bill Committee.

2    Political Parties and Elections Bill:

    (1) The Speaker has appointed Sir Nicholas Winterton, Mr Frank Cook and Mr Joe Benton Chairmen of the Political Parties and Elections Bill Committee; and

    (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated eighteen Members to serve on the Committee: Nick Ainger, Mr Brian Binley, Mr David Clelland, Mr Jonathan Djanogly, James Duddridge, Mr John Grogan, Stephen Hesford, David Howarth, Mrs Eleanor Laing, Martin Linton, Tony Lloyd, Ian Lucas, Mr Alan Reid, Mr Virendra Sharma, Mr Andrew Tyrie, Dr Alan Whitehead, Mr Michael Wills and Pete Wishart.

3    Draft Police (Conduct) Regulations 2008, the draft Police Appeals Tribunals Rules 2008 and the draft Police (Performance) Regulations 2008:

    (1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Regulations and the draft Rules to the First Delegated Legislation Committee and has appointed Mr John Bercow Chairman; and

    (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Michael Ancram, John Battle, Liz Blackman, Mr Crispin Blunt, Richard Burden, Mr Vernon Coaker, Mrs Ann Cryer, Natascha Engel, Mr Michael Fallon, Mr Fabian Hamilton, Chris Huhne, Steve McCabe, Mr Michael Mates, Mr David Ruffley, Bob Russell and Phil Wilson.

4    Landsbanki Freezing Order 2008 (S.I., 2008, No. 2668) and the Landsbanki Freezing (Amendment) Order 2008 (S.I., 2008, No. 2766):

    (1) The Speaker has allocated the Orders to the Second Delegated Legislation Committee and has appointed Mr Mike Weir Chairman; and

    (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Ms Celia Barlow, Mr Bob Blizzard, Mr Colin Breed, Mr Charles Clarke, Mr Kenneth Clarke, Frank Dobson, Barry Gardiner, Mr Peter Hain, Mr John Heppell, Mr Mark Hoban, Mr Douglas Hogg, Daniel Kawczynski, John Mason, Mr Brooks Newmark, Ian Pearson and Dr Howard Stoate.

5    Stamp Duty Land Tax (Variation of Part 4 of the Finance Act 2003) Regulations 2008 (S.I., 2008, No. 2338),—The Committee of Selection has discharged Stephen Pound and Mr Don Touhig from the Third Delegated Legislation Committee (nominated in respect of the Regulations) and nominated in substitution Margaret Moran and John Robertson.

6    Landfill Tax (Material from Contaminated Land) (Phasing out of Exemption) Order 2008 (S.I., 2008, No. 2669):

    (1) The Speaker has allocated the Order to the Third Delegated Legislation Committee and has appointed Mr David Wilshire Chairman; and

    (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Dr Vincent Cable, Ann Coffey, Mr Stephen Dorrell, Angela Eagle, Justine Greening, Dr Brian Iddon, Barbara Keeley, Mr Humfrey Malins, Alun Michael, Mr Brooks Newmark, Gwyn Prosser, Dr John Pugh, Mr Nick Raynsford, Mr John Redwood, Helen Southworth and Ian Stewart.

7    Draft Local Elections (Ordinary Day of Elections in 2009) Order 2008:

    (1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Fourth Delegated Legislation Committee and has appointed Mr Robert Key Chairman; and

    (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Graham Allen, Mrs Nadine Dorries, Mr Philip Dunne, John Healey, Mr Andrew Love, Anne Main, Julie Morgan, Dr Doug Naysmith, Robert Neill, Sir Malcolm Rifkind, Dan Rogerson, Joan Ryan, Jim Sheridan, Andrew Stunell, Mr Don Touhig and Mr Dave Watts.

8    Draft Judicial Appointments Order 2008:

    (1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Fifth Delegated Legislation Committee and has appointed Mr John Bercow Chairman; and

    (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr Henry Bellingham, Mr David Blunkett, Tom Brake, Mr Douglas Carswell, Mr Ian Cawsey, Mr Philip Dunne, Maria Eagle, Paul Farrelly, Mr Mike Hall, Stephen Hesford, David Howarth, Mr Fraser Kemp, Ian Lucas, Mr Richard Shepherd, Hon Nicholas Soames and Sir Peter Soulsby.

9    The draft Social Security (Lone Parents and Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 2008:

    (1) The Speaker has allocated the Regulations to the Sixth Delegated Legislation Committee and has appointed Mr Robert Key Chairman; and

    (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee: Mr James Clappison, Mr Parmjit Dhanda, James Duddridge, Michael Jabez Foster (Hastings and Rye), Mr Christopher Fraser, Helen Jones, Alan Keen, Mr David Kidney, Paul Rowen, Mr Virendra Sharma, Mr Gary Streeter, Mr Graham Stuart, Ms Dari Taylor, Dr Desmond Turner, Kitty Ussher and Jenny Willott.

    European Committees

10    The Speaker has appointed Mr Greg Pope Chairman of European Committee B, in respect of European Union Document No. 11238/08 and Addendum, on Relations between the EU and the Overseas Countries and Territories.

11    The Speaker has appointed David Taylor Chairman of European Committee C, in respect of European Union Document No. 10824/08, on Facing the challenges of higher oil prices.

APPENDIX III

Reports from Select Committees

1    Children, Schools and Families,—Draft Apprenticeships Bill: Minutes of Evidence taken before the Children, Schools and Families Committee; to be printed [No. 1082-ii] [Mr Barry Sheerman].

2    Environment, Food and Rural Affairs,—(1) The potential of England's rural economy: Eleventh Report from the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee, with Memoranda; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 544]; and

    (2) Correspondence with Defra: Memorandum laid before the Committee; to be published

    [Mr Michael Jack].

3    European Scrutiny,—(1) Thirty-sixth Report from the European Scrutiny Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 16-xxxii];

    (2) Minutes of the Public Deliberations of the Committee; to be printed [No. 361-xxi]; and

    (3) Ministerial Correspondence: Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be published

    [Michael Connarty].

4    Public Accounts,—Defence Information Infrastructure: Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee of Public Accounts; to be printed [No. 1133-i] [Mr Alan Williams].

5    Standards and Privileges,—Conduct of Mr Mark Hunter: Sixteenth Report from the Committee on Standards and Privileges, with Appendices; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 1128] [Sir George Young].

6    Statutory Instruments,—Twenty-eighth Report from the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments, with Memoranda; to be printed [No. 38-xxviii] [David Maclean].

7    Transport,—(1) The Opening of Heathrow Terminal 5: Twelfth Report from the Transport Committee, with Memoranda; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 543]; and

    (2) School Travel: Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed [No. 911-iii]

    [Mrs Louise Ellman].

8    Treasury,—(1) Banking Reform: Government and Financial Services Authority Responses to the Seventeenth Report from the Committee: Fourteenth Special Report from the Treasury Committee; to be printed [No. 1131];

    (2) Inherited Estates: Financial Services Authority and Office of Fair Trading Responses to the Twelfth Report from the Committee: Fifteenth Special Report from the Committee; to be printed [No. 1132]; and

    (3) Administration and expenditure of the Chancellor's departments 2007-08: Minutes of Evidence taken before the Sub-Committee of the Committee; to be printed [No. 1097-ii]

    [John McFall].

9    Work and Pensions,—Department for Work and Pensions' commissioning strategy and the employment programme market: Minutes of Evidence taken before the Work and Pensions Committee; to be printed [No. 1129-i] [Mr Terry Rooney].

[W.H., No. 95]

Minutes of Proceedings of the Sitting in Westminster Hall

The sitting began at half-past Nine o'clock.

Adjournment.

    Subjects:

      South East Plan (Anne Milton).

      Support for victims of Libyan state-sponsored terrorism (Mr Nigel Dodds).

      Banking services for small businesses during financial turbulence (Lorely Burt).

      Sites for gypsies and travellers in Epping Forest (Mrs Eleanor Laing).

      Recovery of tax credit overpayments (Michael Jabez Foster).

    A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That the sitting be now adjourned—(Mr Ian Austin);

    And the sitting having continued for two and a half hours after half-past Two o'clock, it was adjourned without Question put, till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 5 p.m.

Sir Alan Haselhurst

Deputy Speaker



 
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