Examination of Witness (Questions 700-719)
Mr Tony Zureikat
20 December 2005
Q700 Sir Philip Mawer: The
Senate report contains evidence that Amineh received $150,000
in payments.
Mr Zureikat: She
received more but the rest of the money was in cash. She used
to come from Palestine through the bridge to Amman, cash in, go
to Lebanon and make her deposit.
Q701 Sir Philip Mawer: So
the money was paid into a bank in the Lebanon?
Mr Zureikat: No,
in cash to Amineh.
Q702 Sir Philip Mawer: In
cash but do you know what Amineh did with it?
Mr Zureikat: No,
I think they are splitting now, they are not together any more,
George and Amineh, but, yes, all their transactions in Lebanon
for sure but sometimes I think in Morocco because George went
to Morocco very often and Fawaz met him over there. Once Fawaz
withdrew money, about 200,000 and he went to Morocco to meet with
George and came back without it and George was in Morocco.
Q703 Sir Philip Mawer: Were
you there when he drew out the money?
Mr Zureikat: Yes,
I was there. I did not see the 200,000 but we went to withdraw
money and he told me, "I am withdrawing 200,000 and I have
got to go to Morocco very, very urgently, George is there."
Once he withdrew money and went to Portugal and George was there.
Once he withdrew money and he went to the Lebanon and George
was there, okay. He never said, "I am going to pay George,"
but he takes the money, he goes over there, George is there, he
comes back without it. Either they ate ice-cream, like I said,
or they gave it to charity over there or they did business with
it, paid the hotel.
Q704 Sir Philip Mawer: These
are all cash payments though?
Mr Zureikat: Yes
and if you go back to Fawaz's passport departure from Amman, final
destination to Morocco, you will find Galloway was there. The
same day Fawaz makes the withdrawal he travels. One day I dropped
him at the airport, he stopped by the bank right directly at the
airport and he flew from there. He did not give me the money
to give to his office or to his sister. He took the money with
him. That is money I witnessed. I was there. I dropped him
at the airport.
Q705 Sir Philip Mawer: Do
you remember when that was?
Mr Zureikat: In
2002. The end of 2002. It is easy to find out, I can look it
up. I can find out exactly and on that day exactly George was
in Morocco.
Q706 Sir Philip Mawer: It
would be very helpful if you could identify the date for that
happening, that would be splendid. Would you like to have a pause
now and have a cigarette? Shall we break?
Mr Zureikat:
Yes.
Q707 Sir Philip Mawer:
Let's do that. It will give you a chance. I am conscious it
is difficult for you.
[After a short break]
Q708 Sir Philip Mawer:
We were talking about payments to Mr Galloway and you said that
you believed that these were made in two ways. One was through
Amineh.
Mr Zureikat:
Yes. From a bank called Philadelphia, Umm-Umuthineh branch.
Q709 Sir Philip Mawer:
I am sorry, what branch?
Mr Zureikat:
U-M-M U-M-U-T-H-I-N-E-HNo, let me write it down.
Q710 Ms Barry:
Transliteration in Arabic is always a nightmare.
Mr Zureikat:
U-M-M U-M-U-T-H-I-N-E-H branch. This was a facility account for
Fawaz. The assignee on the account was his cousin from his mum's
side. His name was Amer (A-M-E-R) Zureikat. Amer Zureikat used
to be the business manager for Fawaz for nearly ten years in Baghdad
before the Memorandum of Understanding. He returned to Jordan
in 2000, the end of 2000. Amer was paying Amineh from this account.
I know that for sure because Amer came to me after the war to
form an agreement with me to blackmail Fawaz and withdraw money
from him, and I told him I would not do that for the information
I had. At that time the story broke out about Galloway through
the newspaper. Amer came to my house and he tried to team up
with me to blackmail Fawaz.
Q711 Ms Barry:
This was after the news broke about Galloway?
Mr Zureikat:
Yes, after the war. I refused to do so. I said I would not
do that. Amer used to pay Amineh from this account. Amer knew
ten years' worth of work in Iraq for Fawaz; Amer knew about all
the military issues Fawaz delivered to Iraq through Syria; Amer
knew about the Syrian company Fawaz owned in Syria. Amer knew
everything, plus whatever I knew. He came with me to team up
with me to blackmail Fawaz and I said no. Amer went on his way
and he did collect $250,000 from Fawaz.
Q712 Sir Philip Mawer:
This was as a payment at that point?
Mr Zureikat:
Well, Amer did receive his money from Fawaz, money he claimed
that Fawaz owed him, and they settled. That was a little bit
before the war. He wanted to buy a house and stuff. After the
war the story broke out that Fawaz had a lot of money, and we
believe on the last oil transaction he never paid it back to the
Iraqis, he kept it in his account. We are not sure about it but
that is what we believe, Fawaz pocketed all the money, plus the
money he collected from the contracts, the food contracts.
Q713 Sir Philip Mawer:
The humanitarian contracts, the food contracts?
Mr Zureikat:
Yes. Amer knew Fawaz collected money for products that he never
delivered because at that time the UN gave priority for contracts,
stuff in transit, the contracts they were going to pay before
they returned the money to the Iraqi funds. They said, "Okay,
all contractors have approved LCs and they can purchase the product,
either the product at the port of shipping or on top of the ship
or in the free zone or some of it delivered" and they gave
it priority and paid people who could bring evidence. Fawaz brought
all the evidence to the UN that he had delivered and he cashed
in. Some of them were true claims, some of them false claims.
Amer knew that. Plus, the money he paid to Amineh. That was
where the case of blackmail was created in his mind to come to
me and I said no, but he threatened Fawaz and Fawaz paid $250,000.
Q714 Sir Philip Mawer:
You are saying this was a pay-off by Fawaz to secure his silence?
Mr Zureikat:
Yes. Amer used to be the assignee on this account. Every time
Amineh came Amer paid her money. I used to get money from this
account for my business with me and Fawaz, and Amer signed the
cheques from this account. Fawaz did not sign the cheques, just
Amer.
Q715 Sir Philip Mawer:
That is the Philadelphia Bank?
Mr Zureikat:
The Philadelphia Bank. Now it has been brought by Al Ahli Bank,
the National Bank of Jordan. Fawaz has his VIP accounts with
that bank.
Q716 Sir Philip Mawer:
You were saying that Amineh was one route by which money was channelled.
Mr Zureikat:
Yes.
Q717 Sir Philip Mawer:
You were also saying that the other route which you believe to
have existed was that
Mr Zureikat:
Cash from Fawaz to Galloway. That is why the physical evidence
that the Senate has of the transactions is pennies. $150,000
or 200,000 is not big money. George has a house, a villa. Before
the relationship with Fawaz George did not have any money, he
was broke. He was broke. His life changed after the relationship
with Iraq. He tried with the Palestinians but the Israelis were
watching and he could not do anything to cash in with the Palestinians
because the Israelis were there and were looking for him. Not
for him, they were looking to get him on corruption or something.
He could not do anything with the Palestinians; he did it with
the Iraqis.
Q718 Sir Philip Mawer:
Could we talk about the Mariam Appeal and what you know about
that in relation to the contracts and other things?
Mr Zureikat:
The Mariam Appeal was the front for everything. The activities
from the Mariam Appeal started the book campaign.
Q719 Sir Philip Mawer:
The book campaign?
Mr Zureikat:
The book campaign, yes. The Mariam Appeal was a cover for George
to keep going to Iraq. It was just a ground for him, a reason
for him, a visa for him, to let Britain and the international
community know he was going for that purpose, for that message,
for that case. The little girl got hurt by sanctions, blah-blah-blah.
The Mariam family used to get US$100 from Fawaz every month.
At that time US$100 equalled nearly 200,000-plus change in Iraqi
dinar, which was a huge income for a poor family like Mariam's.
The average income of employees in Iraq did not exceed 20,000
or 30,000.
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