Examination of Witness (Questions 660-679)
Mr Tony Zureikat
20 December 2005
Q660 Sir Philip Mawer: What
other contacts between Mr Galloway and senior figures in the former
Iraqi regime are you aware of? You have mentioned the Minister
of Agriculture, the Minister of Information and the Deputy Prime
Minister.
Mr Zureikat: The
Minister of Oil.
Q661 Sir Philip Mawer: The
Minister of Oil you have just mentioned.
Mr Zureikat: Yes,
they met with him.
Q662 Sir Philip Mawer: Can
you describe what you know about that.
Mr Zureikat: I
was not there. I know from Fawaz they went to the Ministry of
Oil and after they met with the Minister of Oil because of that
meeting the Ministry of Oil made an appointment for Fawaz with
the SOMO and that is where Fawaz's relations started with SOMO.
Q663 Sir Philip Mawer: SOMO
is S-O-M-O the State Oil Marketing Organisation?
Mr Zureikat:
Yes.
Q664 Sir Philip Mawer: And
do you remember what the date of that meeting with the Ministry
of Oil was?
Mr Zureikat: No
but for sure I know, I have been told by Fawaz because the last
visitlet's go to the last visit of Galloway for a minute
to tie it with the oil thingafter
Galloway met with Saddam Hussein at the last meeting, I went with
Fawaz
Q665 Sir Philip Mawer: Can
you remember the date of that?
Mr Zureikat: You
can get it off the TV. It was all over the news. The last meeting
with Saddam. He was all over the news.
Q666 Ms Barry: "Sir,
I salute you," that one?
Q667 Sir Philip Mawer: Never
mind, it is the last one.
Mr Zureikat:
I think December or January.
Q668 Sir Philip Mawer:
2002/03?
Mr Zureikat: Before
the war, 2002 or the beginning of 2003, but for more assurance
it is all over the news, you can pull it from anywhere. I was
there. They took him to the interview. If you recall, he did
the statement that upset Aziz and Saddam Hussein. Galloway told
the reporters at that time that they put him in an elevator, they
went down and he described an unknown place and it was like Saddam's
hiding place. He said it on the air.
Q669 Sir Philip Mawer:
Right?
Mr Zureikat: And
Aziz got upset and Fawaz called him and he re-did his statement
and changed something. I was not following that, but my point
here is that after the meeting with Saddam, me and Fawaz went
to the Al-Rashid Hotel because they were flying to Syria in Aziz's
jet. I went there with Fawaz to see him and to see how it went
and he wanted to send his luggage with me because I was going
by car, and he wanted to send his luggage with me to Amman. I
went there and he said, "We got one and lost one."
They got the approval on the TV station but refusal on the increased
oil share.
Q670 Sir Philip Mawer: This
information came from whom?
Mr Zureikat: I
was there, I saw him, heard him, I was standing in his room in
the Al-Rashid Hotel.
Q671 Sir Philip Mawer: This
was George Galloway himself telling Fawaz the result of the meeting?
Mr Zureikat: Yes.
So they lost the oil increase but they got the TV station.
Q672 Sir Philip Mawer: And
the TV station was the Arab TV station based in London.
Mr Zureikat: Yes,
Stuart was running the show for this TV station.
Q673 Sir Philip Mawer: Is
that Stuart Halford?
Mr Zureikat:
Yes.
Q674 Sir Philip Mawer: He
was the Director of Operations for the Mariam Appeal?
Mr Zureikat: He
is also involved in a newspaper here, a Sunday newspaper in Scotland
or in George's home town.
Q675 Sir Philip Mawer: Are
you thinking of Ron McKay who is a journalist and associated with
Mr Galloway? Have you met Ron McKay at all?
Mr Zureikat: Maybe
if I saw him. Many people came through Amman from Britain, Palestine
and from Palestine to Baghdad.
Q676 Sir Philip Mawer:
But it is Stuart?
Mr Zureikat: It
is Stuart because once I went with Galloway to Mariam's home and
we took some pictures and Stuart wanted the pictures for the Sunday
report. They asked me to do a favour and try to email them.
It was a weekend and nobody was there. I was in Iraq so Fawaz
and George asked me to do this favour, so I took the pictures,
developed the pictures. I am not sure, maybe it was a digital
camera or not, I do not know. I scanned them and I sent the email
to Stuart here in London for the Sunday report but I think that
is the only Stuart.
Q677 Sir Philip Mawer: Yes,
the only Stuart I am aware of is Stuart Halford.
Mr Zureikat: That
is him. It is the only Stuart involved with Fawaz and George,
yes.
Q678 Sir Philip Mawer: Right.
And so we have just been discussing the last meeting with Saddam
Hussein.
Mr Zureikat:
Yes.
Q679 Sir Philip Mawer: Were
you ever present when George and were you aware of any occasions
on which George and Fawaz discussed how the money, which on your
account they must have been receiving jointly, would be transferred?
Mr Zureikat: I
am aware of a conversation with Fawaz himself. Let's go back
to my first visit. We have agreed to co-operate, okay. At the
beginning of 2002 we formed a company registered in Jordan, okay,
and the company managed to get a contract. We were in Baghdad
at an exhibition and the Minister of Agriculture was walking by
and he saw the equipment. He asked me what the equipment was
and I said water drilling rigs. He was in the German branch or
German wing and he asked his people, "I want to buy those
rigs instead of the Italian ones" because there was some
bad smell on a contract between the people of the Ministry and
the Italian company Soilmac, so I was asked to contact the supply
company and the second day I went and we formed a contract which
was under my company and Fawaz's. That was the first contract
Fawaz was supposed to get with big money. Until the beginning
of 2002 Fawaz did not have that big chunk of money. He was making
a small commission on the oil money and sending it back. Really
he was surviving on just five or six or seven cents of the oil.
Once Fawaz got over 200,000/240,000/260,000 for the price of
oil he kept it and he worked with it to get facilities from banks.
Some of them got upset and he had to write to Aziz to get him
to pay out a little bit to pay that money back.
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