Examination of Witness (Questions 500-519)
Mr George Galloway
30 November 2006
Q500 Sir Philip Mawer:
Yes. I did look into that matter and I was satisfied on the basis
of the information I was given as to the nature of the Appeal
account.
Mr Galloway:
Sir Philip, if you are satisfied, I am satisfied. The E Laing
is the mystery bit which remains.
Q501 Sir Philip Mawer:
He or she, well she it is assumed because the name given was Elaine,
is indeed a mystery as far as both you and I are concerned. The
cheques made out to Mr Halford totalled £45,000. He was
also in receipt of salary payments.
Mr Galloway:
I am not asking about his salary, but £45,000 as you indicated.
I am quoting you: "This seemed a lot of money purely for
office expenses". He has since satisfied you?
Q502 Sir Philip Mawer:
He has indeed. He has gone through all the matters.
Mr Galloway:
In that case, I am satisfied too.
Mr McKay: By providing
records and books?
Q503 Sir Philip Mawer:
By providing indications as to what the particular expenditure
had been spent on.
Mr McKay:
Indications or records?
Q504 Sir Philip Mawer:
Such documentary evidence as he was able to provide in the circumstances.
Mr Galloway:
If you are satisfied, I am satisfied. We just want to get to
the bottom of Laing.
Q505 Sir Philip Mawer:
We might note that Dr Abu-Zayyad also received £41,000 in
salary from the Appeal and cheques worth £20,000. Various
people were in receipt of substantial sums of money in the form
of cheques. We were speaking about Boxing Day 1999 and you gave
me your answer in relation to that. Can I confirm was Mr Fawaz
Zureikat one of the people you met on that day?
Mr Galloway:
Yes, he was staying in the hotel with me.
Q506 Sir Philip Mawer:
A question which was left over from our first interview. When
I put the question to you about when you had written the "to
whom it may concern" letter about Mr Fawaz Zureikat, you
said to me at that time that you thought you had written it in
2000. I wonder whether you have had any opportunity to narrow
that timescale or frame down at all?
Mr Galloway:
No, I am afraid not.
Q507 Sir Philip Mawer:
Can we come now to the evidence of Mr Tony Zureikat?
Mr Galloway:
With relish!
Q508 Sir Philip Mawer:
What do you wish to say in relation to Mr Zureikat?
Mr Galloway:
This man is wanted for forgery, deception, fraud and theft in
Jordan. With your contacts you will easily be able to ascertain
that. I am outraged that you gave the respectful hearing you did
to a man who is an absolute out and out fraudster, whose motives
are crystal clear, even from the transcript you gave. This substantial
document is a tissue of lies. I have already said to you in my
letter how absurd the lies are. He describes me going for a drink
with him, drinking whiskey with a member of the Jordanian Royal
Family and drinking vodka with Russians. I have never in my life
tasted whiskey or vodka or any other kind of alcohol, I am a teetotaller.
It is well known, it is written about and you can Google it.
This in itself shows that this man is a fantasist, but it is
not the only falsehood and it is not the most important falsehood.
I think it ought to provide a reference point to you as to his
veracity and probity. He stated, as I said to you in my letter,
that Dr Abu-Zayyad regularly crossed the bridge from Palestine
to Jordan and thence to Lebanon in some kind of money collection
and depositing trail. I told you in my letter that she has never
crossed the bridge between Palestine and Jordan since 1993 and
she had never been in Palestine between 1993 and the date which
I gave you in the letter. In other words, the money trail that
he sat hereand you were very sympathetic to him, you knew
how difficult it was for him, even giving him cigarette breakssolemnly
telling you about was a pack of lies. I have never been in Morocco
with Fawaz Zureikat. I have never been in Morocco at the same
time as Fawaz Zureikat. Therefore, his claim that I regularly
travelled to Morocco, which I did not as my passports can prove,
is false. Any time I went to Morocco I did not meet Zureikat
there. Therefore his whole story about the withdrawal of 200,000
in order to fly to Morocco and give it to me is a complete lie.
The business deals that he describes in here are either figments
of his imagination or, at least so far as they involve me, are
completely false. I have never been in any of the places that
he talked about. I have never been with Russians. Even the United
States Senate did not accuse me of being involved in arms deals.
I never met Russians in Baghdad. I was waiting, as I read it,
for the North Koreans to pop up because it is practically the
only allegation which is not made here. This is a tissue of lies
by an inveterate liar whose motives are clear and who is a wanted
criminal.
Q509 Sir Philip Mawer:
On what basis do you say he is a wanted criminal? Have you evidence
to prove to me that is a correct statement?
Mr Galloway:
We have already established that you have your own means of finding
these things out and I am sure you will do so.
Q510 Sir Philip Mawer:
That is your allegation in relation to him?
Mr Galloway:
That is right.
Q511 Sir Philip Mawer:
Can I ask you some specific questions about him from his evidence?
Have you ever, in fact, met Tony Zureikat?
Mr Galloway:
Yes.
Q512 Sir Philip Mawer:
Where did you meet him?
Mr Galloway:
In Baghdad.
Q513 Sir Philip Mawer:
Did you meet him initially on 8 and 9 October 2001?
Mr Galloway:
I have no idea.
Q514 Sir Philip Mawer:
You said you met him in Baghdad, how many times have you met him
in Baghdad?
Mr Galloway:
I think once but maybe twice and both times in the office of Mr
Fawaz Zureikat.
Q515 Sir Philip Mawer:
Might one of those occasions have been October 2001?
Mr Galloway:
I honestly have no idea; he was a completely unmemorable figure
to me until I read this.
Q516 Sir Philip Mawer:
Might another occasion have been in August 2002?
Mr Galloway:
I have no idea.
Q517 Sir Philip Mawer:
Mr Tony Zureikat alleges that you travelled with him to Baghdad
in October 2001. What is your response?
Mr Galloway:
That is a lie. That is the occasion when I was drinking whiskey
with a member of the Jordanian Royal Family!
Q518 Sir Philip Mawer:
It is the allegation in the transcript.
Mr Galloway:
Unless your opinion of me is so low that you think I am a pretend
teetotaller, this statement cannot possibly be true. It cannot
be true that he witnessed me drinking whiskey with a member of
the Jordanian Royal Family because I have never tasted whiskey
in my life.
Q519 Sir Philip Mawer:
That was not the question I was putting to you, I was asking you
whether you had travelled with Mr Tony Zureikat.
Mr Galloway:
No, but you can understand why I am upset about it.
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