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Tuesday 5 November 2002

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Mr David Amess
John Austin
Andy Burnham
Mr Simon Burns
Julia Drown
Sandra Gidley
Siobhain McDonagh
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Members disclosed their interests, pursuant to the resolution of the House of 13 July 1992. For details of the declarations see Appendix.
Ordered, That all uncorrected transcripts of oral evidence taken in public be placed on the internet.—(The Chairman.)
Public Expenditure 2002: Rt Hon Alan Milburn, a Member of the House, Secretary of State for Health, and Jacqui Smith, a Member of the House, Minister of State, Department of Health, were examined.

[Adjourned till Monday 18 November at a quarter to Four o'clock.

Monday 18 November 2002

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


John Austin
Andy Burnham
Mr Simon Burns
Jim Dowd
Julia Drown
Sandra Gidley
Siobhain McDonagh
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

In the absence of the Chairman, John Austin was called to the Chair.
The Committee deliberated.
Resolved, That the Committee do inquire into Foundation Trusts.—(The Chairman.)
Sexual Health: Mr Nick Springham, Health Improvement and Commissioning Manager, Newcastle Primary Care Trust, Ms Evelyn Asante-Mensah, Chief Executive, Black Health Agency, Professor Mike Kelly, Director, Research and Information, Health Development Agency, Kaye Wellings, Director, Sexual Health Programme, Health Promotion Research Unit, London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, Mr Simon Blake, Assistant Director, Children's Personal Development Unit, National Children's Bureau and Mrs Lindsay Abbott, Deputy Head Teacher, Slough and Eton Church of England Secondary School, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 28 November at Ten o'clock.

Thursday 28 November 2002

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Mr David Amess
John Austin
Andy Burnham
Jim Dowd
Julia Drown
Sandra Gidley
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
   Sexual Health: Dr George Kinghorn, Clinical Director, Genito-urinary Department, Royal Hallamshire Hospital, Sheffield, Dr Pat Munday, Consultant Physician, Watford General Hospital, and Clinical Director, West Hertfordshire Hospitals NHS Trust, Dr Chris Ford, Chairman, Royal College of General Practice Committee, Sexual Health Issues, Ms Marian Nicholson, Chairman, Herpes Viruses Association, Mr Graham Taylor, lead Commissioner, Sexual Health and HIV care, Brighton and Hove City Primary Care Trust and Ms Jackie Rogers, Clinical Nurse Specialist, Ore Clinic, Hastings, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 12 December at Ten o'clock.

Thursday 12 December 2002

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Mr David Amess
John Austin
Julia Drown
Sandra Gidley
Siobhain McDonagh
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Ordered, That a Sub-committee on Maternity Services be appointed.—(The Chairman.)
Ordered, That all Members of the Committee be Members of the Sub-committee.—(The Chairman.)
Ordered, That Julia Drown be Chairman of the Sub-committee.
Resolved, That the Sub-committee do inquire into Provision of Maternity Services; Inequalities in Access to Maternity Services; and Choice in Maternity Services.—(The Chairman.)
Sexual Health: Dr Simon Barton, Consultant Physician, Chelsea and Westminster Hospital, Mr Simon Collins, Representative, HIV i-base, an information provider for patients and health professionals, Ms Ruth Lowbury, Director, Medical Foundation for AIDS and Sexual Health, Dr Ade Fakoya, Consultant Physician, Newham Healthcare NHS Trust, Ms Chrissie Green, Clinical Nurse Specialist, West Middlesex University Hospital and Ms Heather Wilson, Senior Health Adviser, Barnet General Hospital, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 9 January 2003 at Ten o'clock.

Thursday 9 January 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


John Austin
Andy Burnham
Mr Simon Burns
Jim Dowd
Julia Drown
Sandra Gidley
Siobhain McDonagh
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Draft Report (The Work of the Health Committee, 2002), proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read.   
Ordered, That the draft Report be read a second time, paragraph by paragraph.
Paragraphs 1 to 27 read and agreed to.
Resolved, That the Report be the First Report of the Committee to the House.
Ordered, That the Chairman do make the Report to the House.
The Committee further deliberated.
Sexual Health: Dr Muir Gray, National Electronic Screening Library, Dr Trevor Stammers, Trustee, and Mr Robert Whelan, Director, The Family Education Trust and Ms Gill Frances, Director of Children's Development, National Children's Bureau, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 16 January at Ten o'clock.

Thursday 16 January 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Mr David Amess
John Austin
Mr Simon Burns
Jim Dowd
Julia Drown
Sandra Gidley
Siobhain McDonagh
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Ordered, That Melanie Henwood be appointed a Specialist Adviser to assist the Committee in matters relating to healthcare for the remainder of the Parliament.—(The Chairman.)
Ordered, That Dr Susan Bewley, Professor Alison McFarlane, Professor Lesley Page and Professor Martin Whittle be appointed Specialist Advisers to assist the Sub-committee in its inquiries into Maternity Services.—(The Chairman.)
Sexual Health: Ms Tara Hall, Ms Lorna Webley, Mr David Morris, and Ms Sarah Nicholls, the Wakefield Peer Group Research Project, Ms Emma Henderson, and Ms Erica Buist, National Youth Parliament, Ms Natalie Stuart, and Ms Anna Eagle, Young-Mums-to-be Project, Swindon, Mr Jay Bailey, Ms Gemma Minty, Ms Rachael Ward and Mr Scott Williams, Wigan Borough-wide Youth Council, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 23 January at Ten o'clock.

Thursday 23 January 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Mr David Amess
John Austin
Andy Burnham
Mr Simon Burns
Julia Drown
Sandra Gidley
Siobhain McDonagh
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Resolved, That the Committee do inquire into the Victoria Climbié Inquiry.—(The Chairman.)
Resolved, That the Committee do inquire into The Control of Entry Regulations and Retail Pharmacy Services in the UK.—(The Chairman.)
Sexual Health: Mr Stephen Twigg, a Member of the House, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department for Education and Skills and Ms Hazel Blears, a Member of the House, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Public Health, Department of Health, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 30 January at Ten o'clock.

Thursday 30 January 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Mr David Amess
John Austin
Andy Burnham
Mr Simon Burns
Jim Dowd
Sandra Gidley
Siobhain McDonagh
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
   

[Adjourned till Thursday 6 February at Ten o'clock.

Thursday 6 February 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


John Austin
Andy Burnham
Mr Simon Burns
Jim Dowd
Julia Drown
Sandra Gidley
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Foundation Trusts: Ms Joan Roger, Chief Executive, North Tees and Hartlepool NHS Trust, Mr Nick Paddon, Deputy Chief Executive, South Tees Hospitals NHS Trust, Ms Moira Britton, Chief Executive, Tees and North East Yorkshire NHS Trust, Ms Chris Willis, Chief Executive, North Tees Primary Care Trust, Mr Ken Jarrold CBE, Chief Executive, County Durham and Tees Valley Strategic Health Authority, Mr David Jackson, Chief Executive, Bradford Hospitals NHS Trust, Dr Ian Rutter, Chief Executive, North Bradford PCT and Mr Peter Dixon, Chairman, University College London Hospitals NHS Trust, were examined.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 11 February at Two o'clock.

Tuesday 11 February 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Mr David Amess
John Austin
Andy Burnham
Mr Simon Burns
Julia Drown
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Foundation Trusts: Mr Douglas Pattison, Chief Executive, Hinchingbrooke Hospitals NHS Trust, Ms Karen Bell, Chief Executive, Huntingdonshire Primary Care Trust, Mr Malcolm Stamp, Chief Executive, Addenbrookes Hospital NHS Trust and Mr Chris Banks, Chief Executive, Peterborough Hospitals NHS Trust, were examined.
Dame Pauline Green, Chief Executive and General Secretary, Co-operative Union, Mr Peter Hunt, Director, Mutuo, Mr Cliff Mills, Senior Partner, Cobbetts Solicitors, Mr Mark Sesnan, Managing Director, Greenwich Leisure Ltd, Ms Fiona Campbell, Co-ordinator, Democratic Health Network, and Mr Malcolm Alexander, Chief Executive, Association of Community Health Councils for England and Wales, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 27 February at half-past Ten o'clock.

Thursday 27 February 2003

Members present:


Mr David Amess
Andy Burnham
Mr Simon Burns
Jim Dowd
Julia Drown
Sandra Gidley
Siobhain McDonagh
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
In the absence of the Chairman, John Austin was called to the Chair.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 4 March at Ten o'clock.

Tuesday 4 March 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Mr David Amess
John Austin
Andy Burnham
Mr Simon Burns
Jim Dowd
Julia Drown
Sandra Gidley
Siobhain McDonagh
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Foundation Trusts: Rt Hon Alan Milburn, a Member of the House, Secretary of State for Health, was further examined, and Mr Andy McKeon, Director, Policy and Planning, Department of Health, was examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 13 March at half past Ten o'clock.

Tuesday 13 March 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Mr David Amess
Andy Burnham
Mr Simon Burns
Jim Dowd
Julia Drown
Sandra Gidley
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.

[Adjourned till Thursday 20 March at Ten o'clock.

Tuesday 20 March 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Andy Burnham
Mr Simon Burns
Julia Drown
Sandra Gidley
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
   

[Adjourned till Wednesday 26 March at Ten o'clock.

Wednesday 26 March 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Andy Burnham
Jim Dowd
Sandra Gidley
Siobhain McDonagh
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Resolved, That the Committee do inquire into Obesity.—(The Chairman.)
Ordered, That Professor Gerard Hastings and Professor Tim Lang be appointed Specialist Advisers to assist the Committee in its inquiry into Obesity.—(The Chairman.)

[Adjourned till Thursday 27 March at Ten o'clock.

Thursday 27 March 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Mr David Amess
Andy Burnham
Mr Simon Burns
Julia Drown
Siobhain McDonagh
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Ordered, That Professor Philip James be appointed a Specialist Adviser to assist the Committee in its inquiry into Obesity.—(The Chairman.)
The Victoria Climbié Inquiry: Lord Laming, a Member of the House of Lords, Chairman of the Victoria Climbié Inquiry, was examined.

[Adjourned till Wednesday 2 April at a quarter to Three o'clock.
Wednesday 2 April 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Andy Burnham
Mr Simon Burns
Jim Dowd
Julia Drown
Sandra Gidley
Siobhain McDonagh
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
   

[Adjourned till Thursday 3 April at Ten o'clock.

Tuesday 3 April 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Mr David Amess
Andy Burnham
Mr Simon Burns
Jim Dowd
Julia Drown
Sandra Gidley
Siobhain McDonagh
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Ordered, That Dr Laurel Edmunds and Professor Kenneth Fox be appointed Specialist Advisers to assist the Committee in its inquiry into Obesity.—(The Chairman.)
The Control of Entry Regulations and Retail Pharmacy Services in the UK: Mr Jonathan May, Divisional Director, and Mr Matthew Johnson, Economist, Market and Policy Initiatives Division, Office of Fair Trading, Mr John D'Arcy, Chief Executive, National Pharmaceutical Association, Liz Colling, NHS Business Development Manager, National Co-operative Chemists Ltd, Mr John Evans, Superintendent Pharmacist, ASDA and Ms Sue Sharpe, Chief Executive, Pharmaceutical Services Negotiating Committee, were examined.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 8 April at Two o'clock.

Tuesday 8 April 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Mr Simon Burns
Jim Dowd
Julia Drown
Sandra Gidley
Siobhain McDonagh
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
   

[Adjourned till Thursday 10 April at Ten o'clock.

Thursday 10 April 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Andy Burnham
Mr Simon Burns
Jim Dowd
Julia Drown
Sandra Gidley
Siobhain McDonagh
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.

[Adjourned till Monday 14 April at Four o'clock.

Tuesday 14 April 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Andy Burnham
Mr Simon Burns
Julia Drown
Jim Dowd
Sandra Gidley
Siobhain McDonagh
Dr Doug Naysmith

 

The Committee deliberated.
Resolved, That the Committee do inquire into Patient and Public Involvement in the NHS.—(The Chairman.)

[Adjourned till Tuesday 29 April at Two o'clock.

Tuesday 29 April 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


John Austin
Andy Burnham
Julia Drown
Jim Dowd
Sandra Gidley
Siobhain McDonagh
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Draft Report (Foundation Trusts), proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read.
Ordered, That the draft Report be read a second time, paragraph by paragraph.
Paragraphs 1 to 25 read and agreed to.
Paragraph 26 read, as follows:
"The Government's proposals to limit the proportion of Foundation Trusts' private patient income to 2—3-04 levels have attracted considerable media attention, and have been welcomed by the independent healthcare sector. While Malcolm Stamp made clear to us that he would not be seeking to increase the volume of private patients as an income generator, he told us that this element of the proposal felt "a bit like philosophical overdrive". However, General Healthcare pointed out that despite these restrictions, it was far from clear that Foundation Trusts would not be able to reinvest NHS surpluses in developing other commercial enterprises, for example offering occupational health services to businesses. We believe that the Government's proposals, as they stand, have the potential to get a greater proportion of the increasing NHS funds going to Foundation Trusts, and we believe that limitations on private work are appropriate and necessary to ensure that Foundation Trusts' primary function remains the delivery of healthcare to NHS patients."
Amendment proposed, in line 10, to leave out the words "get a greater proportion of the increasing NHS funds going to" and insert the words "generate extra resources for".—(Siobhain McDonagh.)
Question put, That the Amendment be made.
The Committee divided.


Ayes, 3
Andy Burnham
Siobhain McDonagh
Dr Doug Naysmith
Noes, 4
John Austin
Julia Drown
Sandra Gidley
Dr Richard Taylor

 

Paragraph agreed to.
Paragraphs 27 to 105 read and agreed to.
Paragraph 106 read, as follows:
"We note the Government's commitment to piloting this policy with a selected group of trusts rather than opting for large-scale 'big bang' implementation. We recommend that consideration is given to establishing an additional pilot allowing all trusts in a particular area to become Foundation Trusts, as this would help to evaluate how the system would operate in the long term. We do not think that the proposed very tight schedule of annual waves of reform allows sufficient opportunity for the advantages or disadvantages of Foundation status to be evaluated, or for lessons to be learnt, good practice disseminated, and the policy refined for further waves. In particular, we feel that in the early years of this policy, the success of public involvement measures, and the impact on wider health economies will merit very close scrutiny. We recommend that the Government should commission an independent evaluation specifically aimed at assessing the impact on wider health economies and on public involvement, and geared towards helping refine the policies for 'second wave' Foundation Trusts, before announcing the second wave of trusts."

Amendment proposed, in line 2, to leave out from the word "implementation" to the word "term" in line 5.—(Andy Burnham.)
Question put, That the Amendment be made.
The Committee divided.


Ayes, 3
Andy Burnham
Siobhain Mc
Donagh
Dr Doug Naysmith
Noes, 4
John Austin
Julia Drown
Sandra Gidley
Dr Richard Taylor

 

Paragraph agreed to.
Paragraphs 107 to 163 read and agreed to.
Paragraph 164 read, as follows:
"We feel that the policy of Foundation Trusts as presented in the Government's Guide needs changes in several areas if it is to succeed. These include the rationalisation of regulation arrangements, the introduction of clear national standards for the membership and election of boards of governors, additional assurances on the access of Foundation Trusts to the NHS's limited budget, and clarification of the precise powers available to both members of the Foundation Trusts and their boards of governors. We also think it is vital that PALS and ICAS are maintained within Foundation Trusts, and that Foundation Trusts' non-executive directors should be affiliated and accountable to the CPPIH. We also recommend that the Government considers a wider democratic option for trusts, including PCTs, to consider, with or without the freedoms associated with the current Foundation model."
Amendment proposed, in line 8, to leave out from the word "CPPIH." To the end of the paragraph.—(Siobhain McDonagh.)
Question put, That the Amendment be made.
The Committee divided.


Ayes, 2
Andy Burnham
Siobhain McDonagh
Noes, 5
John Austin
Julia Drown
Sandra Gidley
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

Paragraphs agreed to.
Paragraphs 165 to 171 read and agreed to.
An Annex (Background to Foundation Trusts)—(The Chairman)—brought up, read and agreed to.
Paragraph entitled Summary—(The Chairman)—brought up, read and agreed to.
Resolved, That the Report be the Second Report of the Committee to the House.
Ordered, That the provisions of Standing Order No. 134 (Select Committees (Reports)) be applied to the Report.
Several papers were ordered to be appended to the Minutes of Evidence.—(The Chairman.)
Ordered, That the Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee be reported to the House.—(The Chairman.)

[Adjourned till Thursday 8 May at half past Ten o'clock.

Thursday 8 May 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Mr David Amess
John Austin
Andy Burnham
Mr Simon Burns
Jim Dowd
Julia Drown
Sandra Gidley
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.

[Adjourned till Thursday 15 May at Ten o'clock.

Thursday 15 May 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Mr David Amess
John Austin
Andy Burnham
Jim Dowd
Julia Drown
Sandra Gidley
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Mr David Lammy, a Member of the House, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State, Department of Health, was examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 22 May at Ten o'clock.

Thursday 22 May 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Julia Drown
Sandra Gidley
 
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Draft Report (Sexual Health), proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read.
Ordered, That the Chairman's draft Report be read a second time, paragraph by paragraph.
Paragraphs 1 to 328 read and agreed to.
Summary agreed to.
An Annex (Visit to Manchester Young People Council)—(The Chairman)—brought up, read and agreed to.
Resolved, That the Report be the Third Report of the Committee to the House.
Ordered, That the provisions of Standing Order No. 134 (Select Committees (Reports)) be applied to the Report.
Several papers were ordered to be appended to the Minutes of Evidence.—(The Chairman.)
Ordered, That the Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee be reported to the House.—(The Chairman.)

[Adjourned till Tuesday 3 June at Four o'clock.

Tuesday 3 June 2003

Members present:


Julia Drown
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

In the absence of the Chairman, Julia Drown was called to the Chair.
The Committee deliberated.
Draft Report (Provision of Maternity Services), proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read.
Ordered, That the Report be read a second time, paragraph by paragraph.
Paragraphs 1 to 247 read and agreed to.
Summary read and agreed to.
An Annex (Current Situation in Maternity Services),—(The Chairman)—brought up, read and agreed to.
Resolved, That the Report be the Fourth Report of the Committee to the House.
Ordered, That the Chairman do make a Report to the House.
Ordered, That the provisions of Standing Order No 134 (Select Committees (Reports)) be applied to the Report.
Several papers were ordered to be appended to the Minutes of Evidence.
Ordered, That the Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Maternity Services Sub-Committee be reported to the House.

[Adjourned till Thursday 5 June at Ten o'clock.

Thursday 5 June 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


John Austin
Sandra Gidley
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Draft Report (The Control of Entry Regulations and Retail Pharmacy Services in the UK), proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read.
Ordered, That the Chairman's draft Report be read a second time, paragraph by paragraph.
Paragraphs 1 to 57 read and agreed to.
Resolved, That the Report be the Fifth Report of the Committee to the House.
Ordered, That the provisions of Standing Order No. 134 (Select Committees (Reports)) be added to the Report.
Ordered, That the Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee be reported to the House.
The Committee further deliberated.
A further draft Report (The Victoria Climbié Inquiry Report), proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read.
Ordered, That the Chairman's draft Report be read a second time, paragraph by paragraph.
Paragraphs 1 to 84 read and agreed to.
Resolved, That the Report be the Sixth Report of the Committee to the House.
Ordered, That the provisions of Standing Order No. 134 (Select Committees (Reports)) be added to the Report.

[Adjourned till Thursday 12 June at Ten o'clock.

Thursday 12 June 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Mr David Amess
John Austin
Andy Burnham
Julia Drown
Sandra Gidley
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Obesity: Ms Imogen Sharp, Business Area Head, and Ms Daniela Armstrong, Acting Nutrition Programme Manager, Cardiovascular Disease and Cancer Prevention, Department of Health, Mr Mike Ash, Deputy Director, Planning Directorate, Office of the Deputy Prime Minister, Mr Alec McGivan, Director, Sport, Department for Culture, Media and Sport, Ms Patricia Hayes, Head, Charging and Local Transport Division, Department for Transport and Ms Mela Watts, Divisional Manager, Curriculum Division, Department for Education and Skills, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 19 June at half past Ten o'clock.

Thursday 19 June 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Mr David Amess
John Austin
Andy Burnham
Mr Simon Burns
Jim Dowd
Julia Drown
Sandra Gidley
Siobhain McDonagh
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.

[Adjourned till Thursday 26 June at Ten o'clock.

Thursday 26 June 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


John Austin
Andy Burnham
Mr Simon Burns
Mr Paul Burstow
Jim Dowd
Julia Drown
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Obesity: Professor Sir George Alberti, International Diabetes Federation, Dr Geof Rayner, Chair, UK Public Health Association, Professor Julian Peto, Institute of Cancer Research, Professor Hubert Lacey, Royal College of Psychiatrists, Professor Jane Wardle, Health Behaviour Unit, University College London and Dr Tim Barrett, Consultant Paediatric Endocrinologist, Birmingham Children's Hospital, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 3 July at Ten o'clock.

Thursday 3 July 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


John Austin
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Draft Report (Patient and Public Involvement in the NHS), proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read.
Ordered, That the Chairman's draft Report be read a second time, paragraph by paragraph.
Paragraphs 1 to 34 be read and agreed to.
Resolved, That the Report be the Seventh Report of the Committee to the House.
Ordered, that the provisions of Standing Order No 134 (Select Committees (Reports)) be applied to the Report.
Several papers were ordered to be appended to the Minutes of Evidence.—(The Chairman.)
Ordered, That the Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee be reported to the House.—(The Chairman.)

[Adjourned till Thursday 10 July at Ten o'clock.

Thursday 10 July 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


John Austin
Mr Paul Burstow
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Draft Report (Inequalities in Access to Maternity Services), proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read.
Ordered, That the Chairman's draft Report be read a second time, paragraph by paragraph.
Paragraphs 1 to 206 read and agreed to.
Summary read and agreed to.
Resolved, That the Report be the Eight Report of the Committee to the House.
Several papers were ordered to be appended to the Minutes of Evidence.—(The Chairman.)
Ordered, That the Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee be reported to the House.—(The Chairman.)
The Committee further deliberated.
Another draft Report (Choice in Maternity Services), proposed by the Chairman, brought up and read.
Ordered, That the Chairman's draft Report be read a second time, paragraph by paragraph.
Paragraphs 1 to 117 read and agreed to.
Resolved, That the Report be the Ninth Report of the Committee to the House.
Several papers were ordered to be appended to the Minutes of Evidence.—(The Chairman.)
Ordered, That the Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee be reported to the House.—(The Chairman.)

[Adjourned till Thursday 17 July at Ten o'clock.

Thursday 17 July 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Mr David Amess
John Austin
Mr Paul Burstow
Jim Dowd
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Obesity: Professor Andrew Prentice, MRC International Nutrition Group, London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, Dr Tim Lobstein, Food Commission, Professor Adrianne Hardman, Emeritus Professor, School of Sport and Exercise Sciences, University of Loughborough, Dr Susan Jebb, Head of Nutrition and Health Research, MRC Human Nutrition Research Centre, and Dr Nick Wareham, Institute of Public Health, University of Cambridge, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 18 September at Four o'clock.

Thursday 18 September 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Mr Simon Burns
Mr Paul Burstow
Jim Dowd
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Obesity: Mr Len Almond, Director, British Heart Foundation National Centre for Physical Activity and Health, Ms Jeanette Longfield, Coordinator, Sustain, Mr Paul Osborne, Project Director, Safe Routes to Schools, Sustrans, Kath Dalmeny, Policy Officer, Food Commission and Mr Paul Lincoln, Chief Executive, National Heart Forum, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 16 October at Ten o'clock.

Thursday 16 October 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Mr David Amess
Mr Simon Burns
Jim Dowd
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Resolved, That the Committee do visit Brussels in connection with its inquiry into Obesity.—(The Chairman.)
Resolved, That the Committee do inquire into Elder Abuse.—(The Chairman.)
Ordered,
That Elizabeth Powell-Bullock be appointed a Specialist Adviser to assist the Committee in matters relating to healthcare.—(The Chairman.)
Public Expenditure: Mr John Bacon, Group Director, Health and Social Care Delivery, Mr Richard Douglas, Director, Finance, Mr Giles Denham, Deputy Director and Head, Social Care Policy and Mr Andrew Foster, Director, Human Resources, Department of Health, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 30 October at a quarter to Two o'clock.

Thursday 30 October 2003
[Morning meeting]

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Mr David Amess
John Austin
Mr Simon Burns
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Obesity: Professor Marion Nestle, was examined.

[Adjourned till Two o'clock this day.

Thursday 30 October 2003
[Afternoon meeting]

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Mr David Amess
John Austin
Mr Simon Burns
Mr Paul Burstow
Siobhain McDonagh
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Public Expenditure: Dr John Reid, a Member of the House, Secretary of State for Health, and Sir Nigel Crisp, KCB, Chief Executive, NHS, were examined, and Mr Richard Douglas, Director of Finance, Department of Health, was further examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 6 November at Ten o'clock.

Thursday 6 November 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Mr David Amess
John Austin
Mr Keith Bradley
Mr Simon Burns
Mr Paul Burstow
Mr Jon Owen Jones
Siobhain McDonagh
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Obesity: Dr Sue Campbell CBE, Chief Executive, Youth Sport Trust, Dr Alan Maryon Davies, Convenor, Cardiovascular Working Group, Faculty of Public Health, Royal College of Physicians, Professor Chris Riddoch, Researcher, Middlesex University, Mr John Grimshaw, Director, Sustrans and Mr Tom Franklin, Director, Living Streets, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 13 November at Ten o'clock.

Thursday 13 November 2003

Members present:

Mr David Hinchliffe, in the Chair


Mr David Amess
John Austin
Mr Keith Bradley
Mr Simon Burns
Mr Paul Burstow
Jim Dowd
Mr Jon Owen Jones
Siobhain McDonagh
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Committee deliberated.
Obesity: Mrs Cilla Snowball, Chief Executive, Abbott Mead Vickers-BBDO, Mr Bruce Haines, Group Chief Executive, Leo Burnett Ltd and Mr Andrew Brown, Director General, Advertising Association, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 27 November at Ten o'clock.
Proceedings of the Maternity Services Sub-committee

Thursday 6 March 2003

Members present:

Julia Drown, in the Chair


Mr David Amess
Andy Burnham
Mr Simon Burns
Sandra Gidley
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Sub-committee deliberated.
Provision of Maternity Services: Professor Lesley Regan, Consultant Obstetrician, Ms Lynne Pacanowski, Head of Midwifery, and Ms Catherine Eccles, Chairman, Maternity Services Liaison Committee, St Mary's Hospital Paddington, Ms Betty Larkin, Midwifery Manager, Ms Kay Barber, Senior Midwife, and Ms Selene Daly, User Representative, Edgware Birth Centre and Ms Cathy Rogers, Consultant Midwife, Barnet and Chase Farm Hospital, were examined.
Mrs Jennifer Fake, Midwife, Ms Marie Pearce, Community Midwife, and Ms Katy Waters, User Representative, West Hertfordshire NHS Trust, Mr Christopher Lees, Consultant Obstetrician, Ms Jane Hurley, Senior Midwife, Mrs Jen Ferry, Head of Midwifery and Operations Manager for Women's Services, and Ms Livia Mitson, Patient Representative, The Rosie Hospital, Addenbrookes NHS Trust, were examined.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 11 March at Two o'clock.

Tuesday 11 March 2003

Members present:


John Austin
Andy Burnham
Sandra Gidley
Dr Richard Taylor

 

In the absence of the Chairman, Andy Burnham was called to the Chair.
The Sub-committee deliberated.
Provision of Maternity Services: Professor David James, Professor of Fetomaternal Medicine, and Mrs Shona Ashworth, Assistant Director, Nursing and Head of Midwifery, Queen's Medical Centre, Mrs Elaine Parker, and Mrs Siobhain Hargreaves, User Representatives, University Hospital, Nottingham and Ms Sheena Appleby, Head, Midwifery Services, Ms Helen Shallow, Midwife Consultant, and Miss Alison Fowlie, Clinical Director, Obstetrics and Gynaecology, Derby City General Hospital, were examined.
Mr David Redford, Consultant Obstetrician, Ms Catherine Smith, Professional Development Midwife, Ms Susan Breslin, Women's Services Manager, and Ms Julie Ball, User Representative, Royal Shrewsbury Hospital, Mr John Watts, Consultant Obstetrician and Clinical Director, Mrs Toni Martin, Head, Midwifery, and Mrs Davidika Morris, User Representative, Maternity Services Liaison Committee, Worcester Royal Hospital, were examined.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 25 March at Two o'clock.

Tuesday 25 March 2003

Julia Drown, in the Chair


David Amess
John Austin
Mr David
Hinchliffe
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Sub-committee deliberated.
Provision of Maternity Services: Professor James Walker, Obstetrician, Mrs Ann Geddes, Head, Midwifery, and Ms Carol Burns, User Representative, St James's University Hospital, Leeds, Ms Karen Fox, Team Leader, Ms Gill Smethurst, Clinical Co-ordinator, Midwifery and Gynaecology, Scunthorpe General Hospital and Ms Philippa McEnroe, User Representative, Goole Midwifery Centre, were examined.
Ms Karen Conolly, Head, Midwifery, Dr Tracy Johnston, Clinical Director, Obstetrics, and Mrs Alex Silverstone, User Representative, St Mary's Hospital for Women and Children, Manchester, Rosemary Connor, Head, Midwifery and Service Manager, Mr Anthony Nysenbaum, Clinical Director, Obstetrics and Gynaecology, and Ms Clare Hodgson, User Representative, Trafford General Hospital, were examined.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 1 April at Two o'clock.

Tuesday 1 April 2003

Members present:

Julia Drown, in the Chair


Sandra Gidley
Mr David
Hinchliffe
Siobhain McDonagh
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Sub-committee deliberated.
Provision of Maternity Services: Mrs Donna Ockenden, Head of Midwifery, Mr Christopher Guyer, Clinical Director, Obstetrics, and Ms Sue Creegan, User Representative, St Mary's Hospital, Portsmouth, Ms Peggy Hand, Midwife and Clinical Leader, Ms Margaret Wheatcroft, Clinical Director, Maternity Services and Mrs Mary Grant, User Representative, Dorset Maternity Services Liaison Committee, Royal Bournemouth and Christchurch Hospitals NHS Trust, were examined.
Mr Rick Porter, Clinical Director, Maternity Services, Ms Helen Jones, Maternity Services Manager and Julianna Beardsmore, User Representative, Royal United Hospital, Bath, were examined.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 6 May at Two o'clock.

Tuesday 6 May 2003

Members present:

Julia Drown, in the Chair


Sandra Gidley
Mr David
Hinchliffe
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Sub-committee deliberated.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 13 May at Two o'clock.

Tuesday 13 May 2003

Members present:

Julia Drown, in the Chair


Sandra Gidley
Mr David
Hinchliffe
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Sub-committee deliberated.
Inequalities in Access to Maternity Services: Ms Jo Garcia, Institute of Education, University of London, Ms Simone Baker, Vice-Chair, Disabled Parents Network, Ms Christine Gowdridge, Director, and Ms Jenny McLeish, Social Policy Officer, Maternity Alliance, were examined.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 20 May at Two o'clock.

Tuesday 20 May 2003

Members present:

Julia Drown, in the Chair


John Austin
Sandra Gidley
Mr David
Hinchliffe
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Sub-committee deliberated.
Inequalities in Access to Maternity Services: Ms My Diep, Community Health Worker, Family Services, Tower Hamlets, Carolyn Roth, Management Committee Member, Women's Health and Family Services, Ms Diane Jones, Consultant Midwife, Newham General Hospital, Ms Maggie Elliott, Director of Midwifery, and Ms Lesley Spires, Manager, Community Midwifery Services, Queen Charlotte's Hospital, were examined.
The Sub-committee deliberated.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 3 June at Four o'clock.

Tuesday 3 June 2003

Members present:

Julia Drown, in the Chair


Dr Doug Naysmith
 
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Sub-committee deliberated.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 10 June at Two o'clock.

Tuesday 10 June 2003

Members present:

Julia Drown, in the Chair


Mr David Amess
John Austin
Mr David
Hinchliffe
Siobhain McDonagh
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Sub-committee deliberated.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 17 June at Two o'clock.

Tuesday 17 June 2003

Members present:

Julia Drown, in the Chair


John Austin
Mr David
Hinchliffe
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Sub-committee deliberated.
Choice in Maternity Services: Ms Beverley Beech, Chair, Association for Improvements in the Maternity Services, Ms Sarah Montagu, Association of Radical Midwives, Ms Annie Francis, Independent Midwives Association, Ms Belinda Phipps, Chief Executive, National Childbirth Trust, Ms Louise Silverton, Deputy General Secretary, Royal College of Midwives and Professor William Dunlop, President, Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists, were examined.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 24 June at Ten o'clock.

Tuesday 24 June 2003

Members present:

Julia Drown, in the Chair


Mr David Amess
John Austin
Mr David Hinchliffe
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

The Sub-committee deliberated.
Choice in Maternity Services: Baroness Cumberlege CBE, DL, a Member of the House of Lords, was examined.
Dr Stephen Ladyman, a Member of the House, Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Community Care, Ms Lindsay Wilkinson, Head, Women's Health and Maternity Section, Ms Catherine McCormick, Midwifery Adviser, and Mr David Amos, Deputy Director, Human Resources, Department of Health, were examined.

[Adjourned till Thursday 10 July at Ten o'clock.

Thursday 10 July 2003

Members present:


John Austin
Mr Paul Burstow
Mr David
Hinchliffe
Dr Doug Naysmith
Dr Richard Taylor

 

In the absence of the Chairman, Mr David Hinchliffe was called to the Chair.
The Sub-committee deliberated.
[The Sub-committee adjourned.
Appendix
Declaration of Members Interests

11 February 2003
John Austin declared the following interests: a member of a co-operative society; a member of the Co-operative Party; a former Chairman of the Association of Community Health Councils.
Andy Burnham declared the following interests: a member of the Co-operative Party; Chairman of a government-backed initiative to promote Co-operative principles in football and rugby league.
Julia Drown declared the following interests: a member of the Co-operative Party; member of one co-operative society.
Mr David Hinchliffe declared an interest as a member of the West Riding Narrowboat Co-operative.
Dr Doug Naysmith declared the following interests: member of the Co-operative Party; member of two national co-operatives societies, a Labour Co-operative member.

13 November 2003
John Austin, Mr Keith Bradley, and Mr Jon Owen Jones declared the following interest: member of the Co-operative Party.
Mr Doug Naysmith declared the following interests: member of two national co-operative societies; Labour Co-operative member.

 
 
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