Examination of Witnesses (Questions 136
- 139)
TUESDAY 6 MAY 2003
MR PETER
BLOORE, MR
CHARLES HARRIS
AND MR
DAVID CASTRO
Q136 Chairman: Gentlemen, thank you
very much indeed for coming to see us. You were sitting through
that. What lessons are there in it for you?
Mr Castro: Not to make a film
and not to make money out of it.
Mr Harris: We have prepared an
oral statement as you do not have a written statement from us.
It is in three parts. Peter Bloore is a founder member of the
New Producers' Alliance and chair of trustees, as well as a freelance
writer and director. David Castro worked in business outside the
film industry before becoming an award winning feature producer
and also chief executive of the NPA. I am co-chair of the NPA,
an experienced trainer and an award winning feature film director.
I should add that the NPA is supported in part by the Film Council
but our opinions are independent and we would say the same if
they paid us less or more. We believe the British film industry
makes a crucial, direct and indirect contribution to our culture
and economy. At the same time, cinema is an art form, the most
influential art form today and a vital way for the British to
talk to themselves and to the world. In the NPA, we represent
the new life blood of this industry. Each new film-maker is individual
with individual needs. It is important that these film-makers
should be able to develop their careers and be nurtured by a rich
and thriving industry, one which offers many different options
for progress. However, we detect certain very recent trends which
cause us deep concern. What we see is an apparent narrowing of
choice across the board from training through production to exhibition.
There seems to be a belief in some quarters that you can somehow
find the best method, somehow develop only the best people and
the best projects, if only we knew which they were. However, we
do not believe the world works like that. Lack of choice means
narrowness, narrow people, narrow training, a narrow range of
films. Choice means variety. Choice means that some projects should
be driven by market forces, some should be subsidised and some
benefit from automatic support such as tax incentives. We believe
this applies in all areas that affect new film makers from exhibition
right the way back to training.
Mr Bloore: As an organisation,
we believe that it is culturally valuable and indeed vital for
the British public to have access to a diverse range of films
that reflect their personal experiences and beliefs. The last
speaker is a fine example of that. We believe that new film-makers
with distinctive, individual voices improve this diversity. Our
particular organisation, the New Producers' Alliance, plays its
role in developing new talent by training new producers, writers
and directors mainly in the business of film so that whatever
their vision or story they will understand how best to finance
it and bring it to the screen. We are the only open access, nationwide
training organisation to do this. We are now in the third year
of receiving Film Council support for our core activities. Without
that support we would have to double our membership subscriptions
and thereby exclude some people from training on grounds of cost
alone. Their support has therefore been vital to us in being able
to carry out our charitable training work. We welcome Alan Parker's
emphasis on training in his recent keynote speech. However, we
believe that recent Film Council policy has begun to focus too
far on support for top end films and training of experienced producers
to the detriment of lower budget films and the training of new
producers. They should be of equal importance and be both part
of a coherent training and production strategy. To this end we
would like to see, firstly, a broadening of the Film Council's
training funds to ensure that more schemes targeted at new talent
can be supported. Secondly, some of the income of the current
SIF levy on film production should be made available for training
entry level producers and film makers via the work of organisations
like our own, the Directors' Guild, Screenwriters' Workshop, First
Film Foundation and other similar organisations. It is fundamentally
wrong, we believe, that so little of this money raised by a levy
on film production should be failing to reach the new film makers.
Mr Castro: On production, in order
to encourage new film-makers, we believe that their needs must
be supported for short films and low budget feature productions
as the first step on a sustainable, long term programme. To this
end, we broadly welcome the Relph Report on low budget working
practices. Also, many first time film makers have managed to get
their films made through tax break deals for production so we
strongly support tax recommendations to the House regarding maintaining
these deals or similar deals in 2005. We also welcome the support
of the Film Council's campaign to oblige the UK TV companies to
support more British features and back the amendments in the Communications
Bill to that effect. However, this is not enough. Firstly, an
expansion of the new cinema fund by increasing its overall budget,
targeting the extra money at new film makers and short films and
reducing or even removing entirely its need to obtain match funding
from other sources. Secondly, increased support for the regional
funds to fund low budget first and second features as well as
shorts. We are also aware that the Film Council has a very large
task ahead of them as they have had for the last few years. They,
as well as others need sufficient and appropriate time in order
to make a significant and long lasting impact on the film industry.
Mr Bloore: Regarding distribution,
we welcome the Film Council's proposals regarding digital distribution
of films and believe that it should play its role in securing
exhibition for new film makers as well. We would like to thank
the select committee for this opportunity to present our perspective
on the industry. We are not talking about the golden past of the
British film industry here; we are talking about the future. The
average age of our members is 26. If we support these new film
makers, then we are supporting the future.
Chairman: Thank you. We very much appreciate
the trouble you have gone to.
Q137 Michael Fabricant: Production,
as I see it, is not only working out the cost of a production
and how you are going to make the movie but also getting the money.
As we heard from the last witness, there are ways to do it and
ways not to do it. You provide training for producers. How much
training do you give in how to raise money in this rather difficult
environment?
Mr Bloore: All of our training
to one degree or another is based on fund raising.
Mr Castro: And how to do it, why
to do it and where to do it, the people you need to talk to and
the pitfalls to look out for when you are searching for money.
Yes, you can go to A or B but that might be hard or soft money.
We try to deal as much as we can with the business of film. To
that end, we do an inordinate amount of networking with financiers
so that our members can meet the financiers so they get to know
each other, because the basis of any relationship has to start
somewhere. After that, so that film makers of any kind, whether
it is producers, directors or whatever, understand what they are
getting themselves into at any stage because they do not want
to sell everything.
Q138 Michael Fabricant: I was interested
to hear that you said it is important that we keep the current
tax breaks. I do not like calling them "tax breaks";
I just think of them in terms of being a similar tax regime to
that currently being enjoyed by television. I do not know whether
you were here for the Directors' Guild earlier on this afternoon.
They did not seem to think that the tax breaks made much difference
at all.
Mr Harris: I missed that little
bit of what they said. My personal feeling is, as was said very
clearly and cogently, you are selling the first Coca Cola each
time.
Q139 Michael Fabricant: Our Chairman
is always cogent.
Mr Harris: The problem is who
you go to. That is why we made the point that we need a multiple
route of raising money, whether for development, distribution
or production. There need to be a number of different places to
go to. If you have market forces, that will take you in one direction.
Some films are not necessarily appropriate for market forces.
Subsidy works but there is a limit to how many people you can
go to for subsidy. A fund cannot have 200 gate-keepers. The advantage
of tax breaks is not just for production. It can be from training
right through to distribution and then you can have two million
people you can go to. If you fall at the first hurdle, you always
have other hurdles to try. I know of award winning films that
have had to go through quite a few hoops until they finally found
the hoop that was right for them. The danger is, if you only have
two types of hoop, you will only get two types of film.
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