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CUSTOMS &
EXCISE AND
INLAND REVENUE:
"BOUNDARY REVIEW"
(i) To carry out, as part of a fundamental
expenditure review (FER), an examination of the revenue collecting
responsibilities, including policy formulation and advice, of
the Inland Revenue and Customs & Excise to determine whether
the current structure of the two departments with the tasks assigned
between them on the present basis gives best value for money.
(ii) To identify options for change and,
for each option:
an estimate of the savings and costs
involved;
the likely timescale in which net
savings could be achieved; and
the main issuesincluding the
implications for revenue and compliance, for deregulation, customer
service and policy formulationthat would need to be addressed.
(iii) To identify in broad terms common
areas of activity where improvements in efficiency, revenue and
compliance, deregulation and customer service could be achieved
without major structural changes.
(iv) To produce a note of the emerging findings
by the end of October 1993, including recommendations for further
more detailed work on the main options, to be completed by mid-December.
Letter from Sir Michael Spicer MP to Dawn
Primarolo MP, Paymaster General
I am writing in respect of a report comparing
the practicalities of merging Inland Revenue and Customs &
Excise and closer working mentioned in paragraph 1.9 of the Customs
& Excise "Fundamental Expenditure Review: Final Report"
of September 1994.
The report was cited in the written evidence
we received from Customs & Excise in respect of our on-going
inquiry into the department (paragraph 3.18). Customs & Excise
stated that "closer working has made much progress and secured
many of the benefits of a merger that were considered in the FER.
Moreover, the concerns raised then about costs remain valid .
. .". In the light of these comments we wish to explore further
how the costs and benefits of a merger of the two revenue departments
were analysed in advance of the 1994 Fundamental Expenditure Revenue
and the extent to which that analysis remains valid today.
The Sub-committee requested a copy of the report
during its evidence session with Customs & Excise officials
on 3 November. On 17 November Customs & Excise refused out
request and on 24 November the Clerk of the Sub-committee replied
asking for information about the report, including the terms of
reference and the facts on which advice to Ministers in the report
was based. We were sent the extremely broad terms of reference
on 26 November, but were told that the factual information we
requested was unavailable. We questioned Dame Valerie Strachan
on 29 November about this matter and were given an account of
some of the conclusions of the report. Nevertheless, we have no
means of validating Dame Valerie's evidence, nor of forming a
judgement on the way in which the analysis of merger options was
conducted, nor of assessing the relevance of the report's conclusions
to the present debate without access to the full report.
Customs & Excise have advanced three arguments
in support of their stance on this matter. First, they have argued
that the report constitutes confidential advice to Ministers.
Since we have been given information about the way in which the
report was prepared and the conclusions it reached I fail to see
how the detail of the report could be considered so confidential
that it cannot be divulged to a Select Committee. Secondly, we
were told by Dame Valerie that the Sub-committee could not receive
the report because it had been submitted to Ministers in a previous
administration. While this argument may be relevant with respect
to papers which have not been made available to Ministers in the
present Government, there is surely no suggestion that you have
not seen a report still cited as a justification for Government
policy on a key area of administration. Thirdly, we have been
told that the report is too old to be of relevance to the Sub-committee.
If this argument is valid then I do not understand why it should
have been cited by Customs & Excise in their written evidence
but, regardless, the Sub-committee is best placed to judge the
relevance of the report to our inquiry.
Consequently, the Sub-committee would wish you,
as the Minister responsible for Customs & Excise, to order
that the report we have requested repeatedly from the department
be made available to us immediately. It would be convenient if
you could reply to our request by 8 December, so that we can take
account of your response when you appear before us on 15 December.
30 November 1999
Letter from Dawn Primarolo MP, Paymaster
General, to Sir Michael Spicer MP
Thank you for your letter of 30 November asking
for a copy of a particular report looking at the practicalities
of merging the Inland Revenue and Customs & Excise.
As Customs officials have explained, the report
to which you refer was confidential advice to Ministers of the
previous administration. They have supplied you with a copy of
the terms of reference, and although it was not possible to extract
factual material about costs and benefits in time to include in
John Lester's letter of 26 November to Mark Egan, Dame Valerie
Strachan did give you an account of that factual material when
she appeared before you on 29 November. I hope that has proved
of some help.
The convention of dealing with papers of this
kind was last set out in a reply to a Written Question on 24 January
1980 when the then Prime Minister said:
"It is an established rule that after a
General Election a new Administration does not have access to
the papers of a previous Administration of a different political
complexion."
The current Government abides by this convention.
I can confirm that, in keeping with that rule, the report has
not been shown to me or discussed with me, nor have I asked to
see it.
I do not think that the sentence you quote from
paragraph 3.18 of the written evidence submitted by Customs and
Excise officials was intended to rely on the factual material
on the report. The then Government concluded in 1994 that it would
pursue a policy of closer working between the two departments.
The present Government has also adopted this approach although,
as I have explained, we have not seen the report and it did not
form the basis for decisions of the present Government.
Officials have tried to assist you by giving
you the terms of reference of the report and by Dame Valerie answering
further questions on the factual material but I cannot go further
and give you a report which was confidential advice to previous
Ministers and which has not formed the basis of the decisions
of this Government. I will, of course, be pleased to answer questions
on our approach to the question of whether to merge the two Revenue
departments when I give evidence to you on 15 December.
8 December 1999
Letter from Sir Michael Spicer MP, to
Dawn Primarolo MP, Paymaster General
Further to your appearance before the Treasury
Sub-committee earlier today, and your letter of 8 December, I
write on behalf of the Sub-committee to reiterate its disappointment
that you will not make available to Parliament the report prepared
by Treasury, Customs & Excise and Inland Revenue officials
for the last Government on the costs and benefits of merging the
revenue departments. I have enclosed the full written answer from
the then Prime Minister on the convention regarding the availability
to Ministers of the papers of a previous Administration of a different
political complexion which you quoted in your last letter and
again in evidence today.[11]
I would wish to draw your attention to the fact that this is not
a convention which binds, or has been approved by, Parliamentit
relates entirely to the conduct of Ministers. I would also wish
to highlight the sentence in the fifth paragraph of the written
answer, that:
In any instance (whether an individual case or
not) where it is decided that papers of the previous Administration
ought to be disclosed to a new Government, difficulty may be avoided
if, as a matter of courtesy, the former Minister is consulted
before this is done.
As the report in question was prepared for the
then Chancellor of the Exchequer, the Sub-committee would wish
you to request the permission of Kenneth Clarke MP for the report
to be made available both to you and to us.
You indicated this morning that you appreciate
the legitimacy of our request to see a paper which has been referred
to in the written evidence submitted to us by Customs & Excise,
particularly since the Sub-committee received an account of some
of the conclusions of the report in oral evidence from Dame Valerie
Strachan, the validity of which we are unable to judge without
reference to the full report. I would be grateful for a reply
to this letter by 7 January 2000.
15 December 1999
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