APPENDIX 4
VISIT TO WASHINGTON AND WISCONSIN 1-5 DECEMBER 1997
Note by Committee staff[36]
Outline of Programme
I. WASHINGTON DC
Monday 1 December
- Briefing by British Embassy staff (not for publication)
Tuesday 2 December
- Drinks hosted by Minister (Economic) of the British
Embassy
Wednesday 3 December
- Travel to Madison, Wisconsin
II. WISCONSIN
Thursday 4 December
Friday 5 December
1. DEPARTMENT
FOR HEALTH
AND HUMAN
SERVICES
| Ms Olivia Golden | Secretary for Administration for Children and Families
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| Mr Howard Rolston | Director of Planning, Research and Evaluation
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| Mr Mack Storrs | Director, Division of Self-Sufficiency Programs
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| Judge David Ross | Director, Office of Child Support Enforcement
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| Mr Frank Fuentes | Deputy Associate Bureau Director for Child Care
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| Mr Stanley Bendet | Special Assistant for International Affairs
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| Ms Ann Burek | |
| Mr Jorge Velasquez | |
The Administration for Children and Families (ACF), within
the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS), is responsible
for federal programs which promote the economic and social well-being
of families, children, individuals, and communities. It is the
lead Federal organisation for the policy, planning and delivery
of the US welfare reform initiative.
The main provisions of the 1996 Personal Responsibility and
Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act included:
- a change to the time limits for receipt of welfare;
work after 2 years of continuous assistance and no more than 5
years assistance over a lifetime;
- the state could exempt up to 20 per cent of the
case load from these provisions;
- AFDC (Aid to Families with Dependent Children) had
been replaced by TANF (Temporary Assistance for Needy Families).
Under TANF States operated the programmes and each received a
block grant allocation and had a maintenance of effort requirement.
The total federal block grant was $16.5 billion each year until
2002. The block grant covered benefits, administrative expenses,
and services. States determined eligibility and benefit levels
and services provided to needy families, and there was no longer
a federal entitlement to assistance. Under TANF, States were required
to make an initial assessment of recipients' skills. With few
exceptions, recipients had to work after two years on assistance.
Twenty-five per cent of all families and seventy-five per cent
of all families in each State had to be engaged in work activities
in 1997, rising to 50 per cent and 90 per cent respectively in
2002. Single parents had to participate for at least 20 hours
per week in the first year, increasing to at least 30 hours per
week by 2000. Two-parent families had to participate for 35 hours
per week in 1997. States that had succeeded in moving families
into work and off welfare faced lower participation rates.
The year since the Presidential signature of the Reconciliation
Act had been fascinating. It was a good time for welfare reform
because of the flourishing American economy. There had been effective
personal leadership from the President, especially concerning
the involvement of business and the non-profit (voluntary) sector.
The States were 'awash' with money because the block grants had
been based on 1994 levels when welfare caseloads were higher.
This had 'lubricated' the whole system, allowing expenditure on
child care and transport.
It was important to take advantage of these beneficial conditions
to invest in recipients who would be in a better position to deal
with any economic downturn if and when this occurred.
There had been the development of coalitions comprising the
States, business community, non-profit organisations, transport
providers and so on. Welfare social workers had undergone a real
shift, which involved seeing welfare recipients as clients or
partners rather than dependents. 'Empathy' and 'connection' were
now important concepts in dealing with recipients.
There were enormous variations between States, as there had
indeed always been. There was now one stream of Federal funding
but it was disbursed in various different ways. In many States,
there was a decoupling of child care from welfare, leading to
more help for low income families. The Head Start programme involved
high quality pre-school care and education, which was allied with
an increasingly important belief that child care should be educational.
It was however recognised that much child care was not of high
quality. The White House had recently hosted a Conference on Child
Care Issues.
It was too early to give any real verdict about the effects
of the time limits for benefit receipt, but initial reports from
some States were available. In Iowa, families who had lost benefit
broke into two groups: those who were now working and those who
were relying on informal support (mainly extended family).
Everybody had been surprised by the extent to which families
had been able to meet expectations. State legislatures needed
to think about the strategy to build skills in the workforce.
There had already been fairly strict sanctions tied to receipt
of welfare and the 1996 Act had simply strengthened the sanctions
with new penalties and time limits. There was a discussion about
the likely effects of the cut-off time limits with political and
press issues determining how the effects would be judged.
Child support was regarded as one form of safety net, although
currently only about 4 million people were receiving maintenance
out of a potential 20 million non-custodial parents. The problem
was so severe that Congress had given new powers to enforce child
support. There were five stages included in the child support
process:
This approach had had some success in the past year: 1.2
million children had been born out of wedlock and 1.1 million
paternity cases had been established. There was a new hire reporting
scheme which obliged employers to notify child support agencies
of newly hired employees. The annual amount collected was $7.8
billion and the target was $20 billion by the end of President
Clinton's term. There was an increase in the use of wage withholding
(deductions). It was left to States to decide how much the custodial
parent should receive from the maintenance raised.
There was an increasing number of measures to encourage/force
a non-custodial parent into paying including withdrawal of licenses
for driving, practising law and medicine.
It was important to recognise that the old system had not
worked, creating dependency and discouraging individual responsibility,
and that the new system might work, even though it had risks attached.
Adoption laws had been changed to reduce parental rights
where children had been abandoned. There was to be greater monitoring
and evaluation of child development with funding mainly from private
foundations.
2. US TREASURY
| Dr John Karl Scholz | Assistant Under Secretary of State, Tax Policy Division
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| Dr Janet Holtzblatt | Deputy Director, Individual Taxation Division, Tax Analysis Office
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The earned income tax credit (EITC) was originally put into
the Income Tax Code in 1975, largely at the urging of Senator
Russell Long, then head of the Senate Finance Committee. It had
been expanded under successive Presidents in 1986 (Regan), 1990
(Bush) and 1993 (Clinton).
The EITC was designed to phase in, go along a plateau and
phase out. The EITC was a large credit, which was intended to
make work pay. It was an attractive mechanism which had positive
labour supply effects, although there were some negative effects
in the phase-out range as income rose. Its overall economic effects
were likely to be favourable. The EITC enjoyed a wide measure
of bipartisan support. Over 15 per cent of taxpayers were in receipt
of an EITC, amounting to 18.6 million taxpayers receiving an average
benefit of $1,422. The EITC was a refundable tax credit, so taxpayers
with no income tax liability would receive a cheque from the US
Treasury. The EITC was important to the Clinton Administration,
because it raised the income of 4.3 million families above the
official poverty line. The low wage labour market had not performed
well, and the US still had a high rate of poverty. Between 1979
and 1992 the median earnings of male non-high school graduates
had fallen by 23 per cent in real terms. Almost as large a drop
(17 per cent) was recorded by males with no more than a high school
education. Unemployment rates were low.
The US welfare reform abolished AFDC, replaced it with TANF
which imposed Federal time limits on eligibility. Very few families
had yet experienced the time limits coming into effect.
In favour of the EITC was its ability to deliver money to
low wage working families. EITC increased as earnings increased
and could reach poor or near-poor families and raise them above
the poverty line. It also had low administrative costs compared
to AFDC as it could piggyback on the income tax system and be
administered by a bureaucracy already in place.
EITC provided modest (but favourable) labour market incentives
by increasing as earnings went up (to a certain threshold). TANF
increased income of families and did not reward work. Therefore
it did not have the best behavioural effects. It was clawed back
at a meagre level. EITC increased in value as people worked more
and had modest income effects up to a plateau after which it was
clawed back gradually.
Employers in the low wage market were quite competitive.
Employers could not cut wages because the wage subsidy was not
for the most part delivered through employers. It was less transparent
than a credit coming direct from employers.
Pay scales reflected the relative scarcity of labour at low
wage rates.
The policy was directed at giving working poor families a
boost to reinforce the notion that it paid to work. EITC without
a safety net would be a disaster. Some people could not work.
EITC could be delivered in real time through the paychecks though
only a small fraction - about 1 per cent - took up this option.
Almost all recipients received a cheque only after submitting
their annual tax return to the IRS. They could request payment
in the paycheck by completing a Form W-5. Some people felt it
was stigmatising to fill in a W-5 form. Others feared that if
they received advance payment they might end up owing taxes. There
was also still a lack of awareness, although the IRS tried to
inform people of the advance payment option. An IRS study was
underway into the reasons for the lack of take-up of the Form
W-5. In 1992 a General Accounting Office study had found that
the two reasons were the lack of available information (which
had since been remedied) and people's unwillingness to take advantage
of the W-5 option. Applying for the tax credit after the end of
the tax year was a form of forced saving for low income families
who would otherwise find it hard to save up for a car or a washing
machine, for example.
The US had a family based tax system. By April 15 the person
named first on the return would be sent a cheque made payable
to either members of a couple. About 70 per cent of recipients
with children were single parents. There was a mechanism in the
advance payment system to allow employers to reduce the payment
of their payroll taxes.
Employer resistance to advance payment of the EITC might
be an issue for small businesses, which could have something to
do with why employees were reluctant to take it up. The W-5 was
the only information given to employers, who had to look up IRS
tables to check the payment amounts. The employer was not expected
to verify that children claimed for actually existed.
The administration cost for the EITC was low and it carried
a low level of stigma. Parents did not need to take time off work
or stand in line at busy offices to make a claim. It was all part
of the universal process of filling in a tax return. Dr Scholz's
own research had indicated that 86 per cent of those eligible
received the credit. The downside was that there was no upfront
verification, so there were relatively high compliance problems.
Published data on EITC. compliance in 1980 had indicated that
35 to 40 per cent of recipients were technically not eligible.
No one had paid much attention to those data, as in those days
EITC costs had been rather small. The subsequent three large expansions
meant that EITC would cost over $27 billion in 1998. There needed
to be closer scrutiny of compliance problems. Under the Bush and
Clinton administrations the IRS had been taking steps to improve
compliance. The easier steps had been taken in 1990 to improve
understanding by clients of the forms and rules for eligibility.
Before 1990 the IRS could not verify the requirement that the
taxpayer provided over half the support for each child claimed
for, as that information was not collected by any government agency.
In order to reduce compliance errors, the definition of eligibility
of children had been simplified. The support test had been scrapped
in favour of a simpler test of family relationship and shared
residence. The IRS now verified the existence of children claimed
for, by requiring a social security number for each child. Social
security numbers were now issued to newborn babies. IRS was now
scanning data to check social security numbers and to detect any
invalid social security numbers before any money was paid out.
The dollar error rate had been reduced to 21 per cent, a reduction
of nearly half the error rate. That still represented some $3.6
billion paid out incorrectly in 1994.
Babies could be issued with social security number with their
birth certificate at the hospital. In theory, only one adult should
be able to claim for a child. Around 110 million tax returns were
filed each year which could in theory be data-matched. If a match
was found, there still remained the need to determine which of
the claims for a particular child was a valid one.
The poverty level was based on absolute needs according to
now quite dated nutrition studies in the UK. It worked out at
$17,000 for a family of four. The amounts had been indexed since
the 1960s. The National Academy of Sciences had commissioned a
report in 1995 to re-define the poverty level.
The minimum wage was independent of the EITC. They had both
been law for decades. However, the increase in the EITC in 1993,
followed by the increase in the minimum wage in 1994, had both
been debated in the context of making work pay.
Food stamps and TANF were important sources of assistance.
Even counties within States could have discretion on how safety
net benefits should be applied.
Part of the explanation for the dramatic fall in welfare
rolls might be the EITC and part may have resulted from the experimental
"tough love" approaches. The strong economy also continued.
The message was out to the recipients, that welfare could not
be a way of life in a strong economy. The jury was still out on
whether "welfare as we know it" had come to an end.
Homeless shelters and soup kitchens had faced nothing like the
kind of problems that critics had been afraid of. There remained
the hardest to serve group who still needed to find self-sufficiency
through work. If the economy turned down, some of the more dire
predictions might be borne out.Wisconsin paid high levels of benefits
compared to somewhere like Mississippi but their benefit levels
appeared to have little effect on case loads, even if one tried
to control the variations in the data for per capita income in
different States. If the evidence was examined carefully, it was
just not there to bear out the view that high benefit levels encouraged
higher numbers on benefit.
The interaction of the EITC and other parts of the system
in terms of marginal withdrawal rates was complicated by State
and payroll taxes, but the marginal withdrawal rate could rise
to 50 per cent at the EITC phase out levels of income.
The latest legislation to expand the EITC had been fully
implemented in 1996. It was unlikely, in the current political
environment, that the EITC would be expanded. The last frontier
of social policy would be to further extend the tax credit to
childless workers (as had been done under the 1993 legislation),
but that could be very expensive.
There was a public debate about the effect of the EITC on
the labour market, and on the slight evidence for a disincentive
effect at clawback levels, and there was also the issue of compliance
and error rates. The evidence was that the labour supply was not
very responsive to the clawback effects.
The Canadians had got rid of a comparable credit in tax of
an increased child benefit, but the withdrawal rates in Canada
had got as high as 80 per cent. Economists were not always the
best placed to analyse the decisions made by marginal workers
who might be affected by different factors than applied in the
kind of investment decisions in which economists were trained.
3. VISIT TO
THE MARSHALL
HEIGHTS COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION
| Mr Lloyd Smith | President and Chief Executive Officer
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| Mr Richard Hamilton | Board Chairman
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| Ms Jackie Henry | Senior Vice President
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| Ms Natalie Green | Ms Loretta Tate
| Ms Shirley Profit | Mr Art Lindey
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| Ms Camilla Bosh | Mr Eric Taylor
| Ms Yvette Tucker | Ms Sylvia Butler
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| Ms Hattie Wins | Ms Patricia Best
| Ms Aretha Razell | |
The Marshall Heights Community Development Corporation (MHCDO)
was an inner city project which had reversed the steady economic
and social decline of a deprived and struggling neighbourhood
which had a 97 per cent African-American population. MHCDO provided
food, clothing, emergency services and employment assistance to
individuals and aimed to help in wider community development.
The strategies used to raise the community included attracting
a new large Safeway supermarket, 2 new banks, a new restaurant
and a government data processing centre. Similarly, new housing
(of various types) was being built or supported and a medical
facility is being encouraged to set up in the neighbourhood. Some
of the housing was deliberately pitched at middle and higher earning
groups in an attempt to rebuild a social mix.
The Committee then was taken to view the area and visited
a single room occupancy housing centre run by MHCDO.
| 4. DINNER HOSTED BY THE BRITISH AMBASSADOR
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| Mr Jeff Bell | Family Research Council
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| Mr Sidney Blumenthal | Assistant to the President, Office of Strategy, Planning and Communications, The White House
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| Mr Gary Burtless | Senior Fellow, Brookings Institution
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| Mr Alvin From | President, Democratic Leadership Council
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| Ms Olivia Golden | Assistant Secretary, Administration for Families and Children, Department of Health and Human Services
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| Ms Yvette Jackson | Deputy Administrator, Food Stamp Programme, Department of Agriculture
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| Mr Robert T Jones | President, National Alliance of Business
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| Mr Garrison Moore | National Association of Private Industry Councils
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| Dr Silvester Schieber | Director & Vice President, Information Center, Watson Wyatt Worldwide
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| Mr Eli Segal | President and CEO, US Welfare to Work Partnership
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| Mr Raymond Uhalde | Assistant Secretary, Employment & Training Administration, Department of Labor
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| Ms Melanne Verveer | Chief of Staff, Office of the First Lady
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| 5. NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF MANUFACTURERS
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| Ms Phyllis Eisen | Senior Policy Director, Education and Workplace Readiness
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| Ms Sandy Boyd | Human Resources Policy
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| Ms Inger Parker | Associate Director
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| Ms Kerry Lyn Schmit | Communications and Media
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| Mr Jeff Joseph | US Chambers of Commerce
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NAM, the US equivalent of the CBI, has as its mission
the enhancement of the competitiveness of US manufacturers and
the improvement of the living standards of working Americans.
President Clinton had made it a priority of his Administration
to engage employers throughout America in the Welfare to Work
initiative.
The National Association of Manufacturers was 103 years old
and lobbied on behalf of its 230,000 members, large and small,
which were involved in manufacturing. The current period was one
of great growth marred by extreme skilled labour shortages. In
a survey, 9 out of 10 respondents believed that skills shortages
would be a barrier to growth and productivity. Additionally, the
greying of the workforce also presented problems with the loss
of skills. NAM's members were spending an increasing amount on
education and training although substantial amounts went into
basic skills such as reading and writing.
Welfare to work presented challenges and opportunities for
NAM members, opportunities in that more workers were needed in
the labour market, and challenges in that many 'welfare workers'
had sufficient skills for entry level jobs only and significant
investment was needed in these workers if they were to progress
up the career ladder. This progression was important both for
the workers themselves and for the economy as a whole. The rewards
for those who could get work was great. The average manufacturing
wage was $46,000 and this would be the wage for someone with basic
technical skills. More highly skilled workers would be beyond
this. There was however great demand even for workers with basic
technical skills. Wages were only part of a workers wealth: performance
pay, bonuses, stock ownership, 401k plans (occupational pensions)
all added significantly to real income.
The attributes in workers that employers wanted were the
ability to think clearly, problem solve, communicate, work in
teams, ability to write, read and use maths and understand the
nature of technology, basic employability skills including work
discipline and reliability.
There were currently high levels of workplace illiteracy
and the gap had to be closed between school and the world of work.
Frequently there needed to be training in basic literacy skills
and work readiness skills even for entry level jobs. This presented
a burden for small and medium-sized companies.
There was a discussion about whether compulsion or voluntary
measures would be better in taking the right workers to the right
companies.
Welfare recipients were seen to come in three broad bands:
- those who were work ready and could be reintegrated
quite quickly back into the workforce;
- those who needed some attention to improve their work
readiness but otherwise had no major barriers stopping them from
working;
- those who would need intensive training and support before
they would be ready to work, if indeed work would ever be a viable
option.
The EITC clearly helped individual low paid workers to boost
their income. However, tax credits for employers to take on staff
were far less popular and effective partly because of the perceived
bureaucratic process involved and possible lack of awareness.
36 These notes have been prepared by the Committee staff and should not be treated as verbatim notes. Back
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