Select Committee on Modernisation of the House of Commons First Report


APPENDIX 1

Memorandum submitted by the Rt Hon Ann Taylor MP, President of the Council and Leader of the House

  1. The Government was elected on a Manifesto which included a recognition that the House of Commons is in need of modernisation, and a promise to ask the House to establish a Select Committee to review its workings.

  2. The Government does not seek change for change's sake, but it regards a vital and effective House of Commons as central to the revival of confidence in politics and public life which it seeks. For all its many strengths, the House is not as effective as it might be. There have been a number of recent reviews of aspects of procedure which the Committee will wish to take into account; but in the Government's view the time has come to draw the threads together and embark on a significant programme of change.

THE GROUND TO BE COVERED

  3. The Committee will no doubt wish to range widely over the subject matter, but the Government hopes it will give particular attention to:

    -    the handling of legislative proposals, on which the Order establishing the Committee instructs it to seek to make an early first report;

    -    the means by which the House holds Ministers to account;

    -    the impact of the House's procedure and practices on the working lives of Members (building on the changes which were made following the Jopling reforms); and

    -    the style and forms of proceedings.

  4. The rest of this memorandum deals with the first of these areas, the handling of legislative proposals, on the ground that it is the most urgent; but the Government will be ready to offer papers on other aspects of the Committee's remit in due course. It will also respond to the outstanding reports of the European Legislation Committee and the Procedure Committee on the scrutiny of European legislation, in which the Committee will no doubt wish to take an interest.

IMPROVING THE SCRUTINY OF LEGISLATION

  5. It is well established that Governments are entitled to secure their legislation, Parliament willing. That consideration is bound to weigh heavily with any Government, but it need not be incompatible with a proper scrutiny of legislative proposals.

  6. Nor are the same methods of scrutiny likely to be appropriate for all or even most Bills. A short emergency measure will of necessity, call for different treatment from a substantial Bill affecting the detailed administration of an area of law or the public service. The Government's starting point is therefore that there is no blueprint for the handling of Bills; and it would not wish to commend any such blueprint to the Committee. It is, however, anxious to develop procedures which, when applied sensibly on a case by case basis, will, overall, improve the scrutiny of legislation.

  7. Against that background, the Government firmly believes that the quality of legislation can often be improved by consultation with informed opinion on both the substance and the drafting of legislative proposals, before the introduction of a bill into Parliament or as a stage in its passage through Parliament. This does of course happen to a certain extent at the moment but the Government believes that there is a need for greater flexibility in the means by which such consultation should take place.

  8. A number of methods exist by which consultation can be carried out before legislation is introduced. These include -

    -    the publication of a Green Paper, setting out a range of policy options;

    -    the publication of a White Paper, setting out the Government's proposals;

    -    the publication of draft clauses of a bill;

    -    the publication of an entire bill in draft, including by the Law Commission for Bills which they have drafted.

  9. Once it has been introduced into the House, a bill will be exposed to informed comment. This is particularly the case in those instances where it has been thought appropriate to commit the Bill after second reading to a special standing committee, which has limited powers to take evidence, or exceptionally to a select committee.

  10. The Committee may wish to consider whether the House would be better able to scrutinise the policy on which legislation is based, and the way the policy is proposed to be implemented, if there were a wider range of opportunities for evidence-taking before the conventional standing committee stage of a bill. These might include:

    -    pre-legislative inquiries into a draft bill or other published consultative documents;

    -    pre-second reading inquiries to consider and report on bills after their introduction.

  11. In view of the heavy programmes of work on departmental expenditure, administration and policy which the departmental select committees already undertake, the Committee may wish to consider whether an additional committee structure would be required for the more systematic scrutiny of legislation and draft legislation.

  12. The Committee may also wish to consider whether special standing committees could be used more effectively in those areas of policy where they are appropriate. It might make sense to contemplate granting them more flexible powers, for example, to hold a greater number of evidence sessions, or to appoint specialist advisers.

  13. It is not necessary, or appropriate, for every bill to pass through all these stages, but some bills might benefit from one (or possibly more than one) of them, and the Government is ready to use them more frequently in suitable cases.

  14. The Committee may wish to consider the relative merits of these additional stages of scrutiny, and the criteria by which a bill might be considered suitable for one or other of them.

  15. The standing committee stage of a bill ought to be the point at which its provisions are tested to ensure that legislation is of high quality. In practice, this tends not to happen, perhaps because the Opposition sometimes gives undue weight to the effectiveness of delay as a weapon against the Government. The Committee may wish to consider ways in which the profile of standing committees could be raised and their proceedings made more focused and effective.

  16. One possibility which the Committee may wish to examine is that the consideration of each clause of the bill might begin with a general "second reading" debate on the principle of the clause, rather than with the first selected amendment, which might deal with a very narrow point. That general debate might serve to put the amendments in context and allow the standing committee to consider them more constructively. The final question, that the clause (or the clause as amended) stand part of the bill, might then be taken without further debate.

  17. Once a bill has become an Act, there should be a role for the House in monitoring its implementation and assessing whether it is working as Parliament intended. The Committee may wish to consider whether departmental select committees should be encouraged to carry out post-legislative scrutiny in a more systematic way than they have in the past.

THE BALANCE BETWEEN THE FLOOR OF THE HOUSE AND ITS COMMITTEES

  18. Save for constitutional bills and the Finance Bill the standard procedure at present is for the second reading of a bill to be taken on the floor of the House; the committee stage in a standing committee; and the report stage on the floor of the House. Bills are, however, very different one from another, and there may be scope for variations from this pattern.

    -    More use could be made of committees for second reading debates on non-controversial bills which do not raise substantial issues of principle. The Committee may wish to consider whether the rule which requires 10 days' notice of a motion to refer a bill to a second reading committee might be relaxed, since it appears to discourage the use of second reading committees by delaying the progress of bills which are taken by that route.

    -    Whilst most bills are committed to a standing committee and some to a Committee of the whole House, on several occasions in recent years bills have been split between the two to enable a debate and a vote on a matter of particular importance to be held on the floor of the House at an early stage. (This is also the usual method of dealing with the annual Finance Bill.) The Committee may wish to consider whether this approach should be encouraged, and if so in what circumstances.

    -    The Committee may also wish to reflect on whether report stages, which often involve a large number of amendments on points of detail, represent the most effective use of the House's time. An alternative which the Committee may wish to consider is more regular use of partial re-committal to a Committee of the whole House as a way of enabling major issues to be debated on the floor, with the report stage taken in a committee upstairs.

CONSTITUTIONAL LEGISLATION

  19. There is a convention that bills of first class constitutional importance should have all their stages on the floor of the House so that all Members can take part in the proceedings. This convention is of long standing, and the House would no doubt not wish lightly to set it aside. On the other hand, experience has shown that taking all stages on the floor of the House does not necessarily ensure that such bills are properly scrutinised.

  20. The Government does not have a settled view on this, but can see a case for a more flexible approach where, overall, a bill would be better scrutinised if parts of it were considered by a standing committee. It would welcome the Committee's views.

PROGRAMMING OF LEGISLATION

  21. Legislation must receive the attention and discussion it requires but the Government needs to secure the passage of its business within a reasonable time if Parliament approves it. Delay has been seen as the weapon of the Opposition and a majority the weapon of the Government. If new ways of programming legislation effectively could be found then it might be possible for Opposition Members to be more constructive and for Government Ministers to be more receptive to constructive criticism.

  22. Since the Jopling reforms legislation has been programmed by means of voluntary agreements arrived at through the usual channels. These arrangements have in general worked well when the Government's legislative programme has been relatively light, but there is room for doubt whether they would be robust enough to cope with a heavier burden of contentious legislation.

  23. If voluntary agreements cannot be reached, or break down, the Government can use its majority to impose a guillotine. This ensures the passage of the legislation but inevitably involves some reduction in scrutiny, especially where time has been used up in an unsuccessful attempt to make progress before resorting to the guillotine.

  24. The Committee may wish to explore the possibility of programming legislation through arrangements which are more formal than usual channels agreements but more flexible than the guillotine. The Government would seek to assist by indicating at the outset its preferred programme for the consideration of a Bill or draft Bill, including the proposed balance between proceedings on and off the floor.

CARRYING LEGISLATION FORWARD TO A SUBSEQUENT SESSION

  25. The rule under which a bill must either complete it passage through Parliament within the space of a single session or fall has been argued by some to impose an unhelpful constraint, which militates against good legislation, since Bills have to be introduced at or soon after the start of the session, which may be before they are fully ready. Against that, it may be argued that any routine relaxation of the constraints imposed by the sessional principle would remove an important discipline both on Parliament and on Government. The Government would welcome the Committee's views on this.

  26. If the Committee were attracted by the idea of selectively carrying over public bills into the following session, it would be necessary to provide that a carry-over motion could be moved only by the Government, in order to prevent it from being used as a way of delaying Government legislation, and it would also be necessary to ensure that the provisions of the Parliament Acts, which ensure that in the event of a dispute between the Houses the will of the Commons prevails, continue to be effective.

  27. The Government would welcome the early views of the Committee so that it can consider any recommendations and their implications as soon as possible.

19 June 1997


 
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