Select Committee on Modernisation of the House of Commons First Report


THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS

POST-LEGISLATIVE SCRUTINY

  54. In paragraph 14 we stressed that one of the essential criteria of any effective legislative scrutiny system was a proper method of monitoring legislation which has come into force. Post-legislative monitoring has the particular advantage that it draws on Members' constituency work, where unexpected problems often surface first. To facilitate and encourage such monitoring, a system of reporting on the outcome of all legislation, rather than some of it as at present, could be established. It is also in this area that the departmentally-related Select Committees can really play a major part, not least because there would be far greater flexibility over the timing of such monitoring than would be possible during the actual stages of legislation.

  55. In the last Parliament several such exercises were in fact carried out[31]. It would be possible to extend such activity further by specifically instructing the Committees in an amendment to their terms of reference to carry out such monitoring on a systematic basis. Alternatively, as an initial step, they could simply be encouraged to undertake such monitoring. Inevitably the workload would not be spread evenly among the Committees, and some would be faced with far more work of this sort than others. Eventually this might need to be reflected in the size and composition of the Committees, the frequency of their meetings, the possibility of the use of sub-committees and the number of staff available to serve them. The House could of course also appoint an ad hoc Select Committee, if that were thought more appropriate, where a particular piece of legislation causing exceptional concern affected more than one Department.

  56. However much the House may improve its methods of scrutinising legislation before it comes into force, it is inevitable that there will almost always be unforeseen circumstances which may affect or even nullify the operation of a particular law. The House must be capable of dealing with such eventualities in a systematic way. We propose to give further consideration in a subsequent Report to this issue, and to look at practical ways of tackling the problem.

PROGRAMMING OF LEGISLATION

  57. None of the possible changes in use of the various options available at each stage of the legislative process can be considered in isolation from the legislative timetable. The failure to address this issue fair and square has nullified much previous efforts at reform. It is a potentially emotive and contentious issue. The House of Commons is by its nature the place for the clash of opposing views, where party political feelings can run high. It is not an academic debating society. Any attempts to reform the House's legislative procedures and practices which fail to recognise the political realities is doomed to failure. It is against this background that we turn to the question of the programming of legislation.

  58. In paragraph 14 we set out the essential criteria for an effective legislative process. The first three of these relate directly to the programming of legislation-

In an ideal world, these criteria would always be met. It has to be recognised, however, that in the real world of politics there will be occasions when the solutions proposed for the handling of a particular bill are dictated by political considerations. How a bill is treated is a political and not a technical decision: and the forum in which that decision is made is inevitably part of a political process. Nevertheless we believe that ways must be sought of minimising occasions where purely political considerations distort the way in which legislation is handled; and that effect can best be given to the three principles referred to above by programming of legislation.

  59. For sensible programming to succeed it must have benefits for all concerned. The Government must expect to get its legislation through, subject of course to the assent of a majority. The Opposition should be guaranteed debates, and votes as necessary, on the parts of the Bill it considers important. All parties and individual backbenchers should be assured that their voices will be heard on issues that are of concern to them. Above all, the general public, and those in particular to whom the legislation is directed and who are affected by it, can benefit from more effective, sustained and consistent scrutiny of draft legislation producing better drafted laws and a reduced likelihood of unforeseen consequences.

  60. Why then, if programming can be beneficial, have previous attempts to devise a system for implementing it foundered? One of the principal arguments of some of those in Opposition parties has been that surrendering what is perceived as the weapon of delay would deprive them of a principal means of obtaining concessions on often unrelated matters, and that "wearing out" a Government by delaying its legislative programme is in some way an effective means of opposition. There has also in the past been some entirely understandable reluctance on the part of those engaged on both sides of the House in informal management of its business - "the usual channels" - to contemplate new and untried methods of handling business. There is also a question of perception and culture, fostered by the terminology commonly used. Expressions such as "guillotine", "knives", "cut-off" and "chop" are thoroughly emotive, conjuring up images, according to ones view, of a determined or despotic Government and of a defiant or defeated Opposition. It is for this reason that we quite deliberately use the word "programming" rather than the word "timetabling" to emphasise the positive aspects of any new proposals.

  61. We believe that the advent of a new Parliament with so many new Members represents a real opportunity to break away from this approach and to try to create a new system which will benefit everyone. It is not only new Members who find the traditional approach unsatisfactory and in some respects incomprehensible. There are many Members with long experience who are thoroughly dissatisfied with the existing approach to this issue.

  62. How can acceptable and sustainable programming of Government legislation best be achieved? Two methods have been tried in the past. The first is of course the guillotine or allocation of time motion. Such motions were frequently introduced by Government after allegations of systematic time-wasting by Members in Committee. They have also on occasion been used in an attempt to make better use of the available time. Guillotine motions were originally the subject of a whole day's debate; currently, under Standing Order No. 83, debate may last for up to three hours. It would be possible for an allocation of time motion to be tabled for every Government Bill. However this would appear unnecessarily cumbersome, draconian and provocative if used as at present. The second method involves a voluntary timetable agreed between the usual channels. This worked quite well towards the end of the last Parliament when there was comparatively little legislation of a contentious nature. There must however be considerable doubt whether such a system would be robust enough to survive a spate of controversial Bills. Furthermore this voluntary timetable is essentially a closed process with the details known only to the Whips concerned and often divulged neither to the Chairman of the relevant Standing Committee nor to the Members.

  63. Two other proposals have been put forward in Reports from the Procedure Committee and the Hansard Society Commission. The first involves the creation of what has been entitled a Legislative Business Committee. This would in essence be a combination of what in some other Parliaments is called the Bureau and the ad hoc Business Committee appointed at present under Standing Order No. 82 in respect of some Bills to which a guillotine has been applied. If such a Committee were to be agreed, thought would have to be given as to its membership, chairmanship, remit, method of operation, and powers in relation to the House. Whatever was decided about such matters, the Committee would in general recommend to the House procedures for dealing with every Bill. While some see advantages in the transparency of proceedings and the comprehensive coverage which such a Committee would ensure, there are corresponding disadvantages, particularly during any period of experiment. The Committee would, in particular, lack the flexibility which is the hallmark of the usual channels and would impose yet another formal structure on the House.

  64. An alternative system was put forward by the Procedure Committee in the last Parliament after its proposal for a Legislative Business Committee had been defeated in the House. This involved the nomination by the Committee of Selection at the time of the appointment of Members to a Standing Committee of a potential Business Committee of seven or nine members. This would meet at specific times, but initially not until 15 hours debate had taken place in Committee, after which it would name a date by which the Bill should be reported from the Committee. If necessary it would then meet again after a further nine hours debate and could agree a detailed timetable for the remainder of the Committee stage. While this proposal has considerable merits in allowing those specifically concerned with the Bill the prime responsibility for determining how it is handled, it is limited in its application to the Standing Committee stage of the Bill. Furthermore, by delaying any programming until the elapse of 15 hours, it does not preclude the possibility of those 15 hours being spent unprofitably on timewasting amendments, dilatory motions etc. The Procedure Committee had accepted that the suggested 15 hours could be reduced to whatever timing the House considered appropriate.

  65. In the concluding section of our Report we make some detailed proposals for the House to consider in relation to the programming of legislation. What we are aiming to achieve, not least during any period of experiment, is a process which is more open and formal than the usual channels but is equally less rigid and structured than a Legislative Business Committee. The needs of all parts of the House, including backbenchers, must be taken into account.

  66. At the same time it needs to be recognised that there will be occasions when our proposals will not be appropriate or practical, that there will be bills where a consensus cannot be reached on a programme, and that on such occasions other more traditional methods may have to be used as a last resort.

THE SESSIONAL CYCLE

  67. Closely linked with any possible changes in the way in which legislation is considered and with the programming of such legislation is the sessional cycle which at present governs all proceedings in Parliament. The session is the ultimate timetable, since prorogation imposes an absolute deadline for a Bill's passage through both Houses. To quote Erskine May "The effect of a prorogation is at once to suspend all business until Parliament shall be summoned again....... Every bill must therefore be renewed after a prorogation, as if it were introduced for the first time". A footnote to the same passage goes on to instance various attempts to modify this, but concludes that "various considerations have restrained the legislature from disturbing the law and custom of Parliament by which parliamentary proceedings are discontinued by prorogation"[32].

  68. We have already noted in paragraphs 11 and 12 the problems caused by the sessional cut-off and in paragraph 14 we have stressed the importance of spreading legislation evenly throughout the session, a process which is self-evidently impossible with an invariable sessional cut-off. It is worth noting that the last attempt to consider provisions for the carryover or revival of public Bills was made by a Joint Committee on Suspension of Bills in Session 1928-29, which reported "the general though not unanimous view that an experiment might be made in a proper case by carrying over a particular Bill"[33]. Successive Procedure Committees have considered the idea, without concrete outcome. It is also worth noting that provisions are regularly made to "carry over" not only private Bills, but also hybrid Bills, many of which are of great public concern.

  69. There are perceived advantages and disadvantages for both Government and Opposition in the carry-over of legislation. The Government can use the run-up to the end of the parliamentary session to curtail debate on legislation, particularly where there is some public sympathy for the overall objectives of the bill. The Opposition, in the run-up to the end of the parliamentary session, sometimes believes that it can obtain concessions from Government not normally available, because of the requirement to complete the legislative programme by prorogation. Either way, this does not provide the best scrutiny of legislation. In appropriate cases carry-over could be used as a positive means of improving the quality of legislation.

  70. Any changes proposed in this area of the legislative process must clearly contain stringent safeguards to prevent misuse. We do not seek lightly to disregard the constitutional implications of prorogation, and carry-over must be regarded as the exception rather than the rule. It is also not an area in which the House of Commons can act alone since it clearly has implications for and directly affects the House of Lords. In the concluding section of our Report, we make some detailed recommendations as to how carry-over could operate with appropriate safeguards.

OTHER LEGISLATIVE ISSUES.

  71. There are various other types of legislation which must be mentioned briefly, on which we propose no action in this Report. We will return to these issues in due course.

The Finance Bill

  72. The annual Finance Bill is unique in several respects. It already has a built-in statutory timetable under the Provisional Collection of Taxes Act. Budget resolutions coming into immediate effect provisionally under Section 5 have to be passed within ten sitting days if their validity is to continue. Their statutory effect ceases if the Bill founded on them (i.e. the Finance Bill) is not given a Second Reading within thirty sitting days from the date they are passed. The Bill must become an Act within four months from the date when the resolutions are to take effect; if it does not the resolutions are no longer valid. In addition to this timetable, as already indicated, the Bill is now regularly split for Committee stage between Committee of the Whole House and a Standing Committee.

  73. Various proposals have been made in the past for reforms of the House's financial procedures, including suggestions for splitting the Finance Bill into two, one Bill dealing with the actual tax changes pure and simple, the other with the highly technical provisions which form the bulk of the Bill. The two Bills could be subject to very different processes of scrutiny. We intend to return at a later stage to the question of the House's financial procedures, including the treatment of the Finance Bill, but this is a major issue requiring considerable study. At this stage, therefore, we propose to exclude the Finance Bill from the changes we recommend for other Bills.

Constitutional bills

  74. The Government memorandum refers to the long standing convention of the House that bills of first class constitutional importance should have all their stages on the floor of the House. It goes on-

  75. The phrase "first class constitutional importance" derives from a memorandum submitted by the Labour Government in 1945 to the Procedure Committee, which proposed that, with some exceptions including "Bills of first class constitutional importance", Bills should be committed to a Standing Committee. The Procedure Committee accepted the Government proposals and the House did likewise. No attempt was made, however, to define what was meant by the phrase; the only examples used in the Government memorandum were the Parliament Act 1911 and the Statute of Westminster 1931. Nor has there been any accepted definition of the phrase since then; indeed in 1981 Mr Speaker Thomas specifically stated "The rules of the House contain no definition of what is, or what is not, a constitutional Bill, nor do they lay down any special procedures for the Chair to enforce in relation to such Bills"[35].

  76. The examples quoted in the 1945 memorandum give a clear indication of what constitutes a first class constitutional bill. In the past half-century, a number of bills which would have changed the role and composition of Parliament have been so regarded. There is clearly some room for disagreement in some individual cases; in other cases there will be no dispute as to the categorisation to be applied.

  77. Whilst a first-class constitutional bill is technically no different from any other bill, we recognise that there are at least two firmly held and contrary views on how such bills would be treated.

  78. The established view is that there is a strong case for treating first class constitutional bills differently from other bills, and that they should continue to be discussed on the floor of the House, in accordance with the 1945 decision of the House. Only in that way do the proponents of this view believe that all Members can participate in detailed consideration of legislative proposals which affect matters such as the powers of Parliament itself.

  79. The other strongly held view is that, while all matters of constitutional principle should be determined by the whole House, the detailed and technical issues are much better dealt with in a comparatively small forum such as a committee upstairs. To those advocating this view the principle of flexibility to be applied to other bills applies with equal force to constitutional measures. Consideration of such bills should meet the criteria set out in paragraph 14, and in particular subsection (b).

  80. Whilst we see no reason why a programme for the passage of such a bill could not be agreed, if agreement were impossible, the Government of the day would presumably feel obliged to fall back upon a traditional timetable motion.

Consolidation, Law Commission and Tax Simplification bills

  81. Specific Standing Orders (Nos. 58, 59 and 60) describe the procedure which is to be followed for these three types of Bills[36]. The thinking behind these provisions is that these are particular types of largely uncontroversial legislation which have already been subject to expert scrutiny. We do not recommend any specific changes in procedure for such Bills. We have received a memorandum from the Law Commission[37], and many of its submissions would be met by the general changes we are proposing, such as the carry-over of Law Commission Bills for a specified period.

Private Members' bills

  82. Opportunities for backbenchers to initiate both debates and legislation are an essential element of the Parliamentary timetable, and it is one to which we will return. In this initial Report, however, we have confined ourselves to proposals for Government Bills only, not least because those Members successful in the ballot will have decided what Bills to present on the basis that the present procedures will continue.

European legislation and UK delegated legislation

  83. Although this Report is concerned solely with United Kingdom primary legislation, we fully recognise the importance of the other types of legislation. No examination nor reform of the legislative process would be complete if it were confined solely to United Kingdom primary legislation. Of crucial and growing importance is the need to ensure proper scrutiny of the other forms of legislation with which the House has to deal, namely European legislation and United Kingdom secondary legislation. Both have however been the subject of recent and comprehensive Reports from both the Procedure Committee and the European Legislation Committee[38]. It is our understanding that the Government is to make an interim response on these matters. In these circumstances we propose to await this response. In the light of the response and any changes which are made as a result we will return to these issues in a subsequent Report later in the session.


31  See in particular HC 323, Evidence, p.78, for work of Social Security Committee: and Second Report from the National Heritage Committee on the Future of the BBC, HC 77 of 1993-94, for references to Broadcasting Act 1990. For an earlier example, see First Report from the Environment Committee, HC 6 of Session 1984-85, on the Operation and Effectiveness of Part II of the Wildlife and Countryside Act. Back

32  May, 21st Edition, p.222 and fn.3 Back

33  HC 105 of 1928-29, para 14 Back

34  Evidence, p.2, paras 19-20 Back

35  HC Deb, 12 January 1981, col 750 Back

36  SO No. 60 relating to tax simplification Bills has only just come into force, and the Joint Committee referred to has not yet been established Back

37  Evidence, pp.4-6 Back

38  The Liaison Committee has also discussed scrutiny of delegated legislation, and asked for early decisions on the Procedure Committee's Report: HC 323 of 1996-97, para 33. See also Evidence, p 8, paras 9-10, for views of Chairman of Ways and Means Back


 
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